Perm

@Mods: aren't there rules against this? Jenny, while I'm sure she means well, is not engaging in any debate, she's proselytizing.

@Jenny: the gentle, eloquent nudging towards doing research didn't seem to work, so I'll try a different approach. Your biblical prophecies are complete bullshit, just like every other religion that claims to know the "truth" about supernatural deities. If you can't deal with that fact, then go climb back in your Christian hole and wallow in your ignorance. No one here will be worse for it.

Darklighter

From the link:
I believe that number is larger than the estimated number of particles in the known universe! Truly amazing indeed! (...that any one could believe it.)

Ironicly that number is even beyond Dembski's 'probability boundry' making it theoretically impossible.

Toto

It's not necessarily a rules violation, but it may get this thread sent to Elsewhere if the mods decide it lacks serious content. If you want mod action, please use the "report post" button, don't ask in thread.

Perm

Eh, it was more of a side question that I thought others may comment or correct me on. For example: [random user] "No Perm, you must have missed post 666 where Jenny clearly refuted x, y and z."

Plus I wanted to whack Jenny over the head with a club to see if she'd snap out of her stupor long enough to come up with an intelligent response.

Mageth

Aside from that entire argument being an "argument from a really big number" (woo!) and an argument from incredulity (that's incredible!), they appear to have for the most part pulled various probability estimates out of their asses.

E.g., the probability of Jesus being born in Bethlehem, as "prophecied", is set at 1 in 10^5 (1 in 100,000). How many towns were there in Israel at the time? The number just doesn't appear to jibe with the population of the country.

Another laugher was the one about the "50 prophets" that "prophecied" the "day of Elijah's supernatural departure from Earth." That's in an incredible story that includes rivers getting slapped with cloaks and parting, and flaming chariots descending from Heaven to carry people off.

Perm

Here's a prophecy for you regarding Jenny's rationale: "Impossible?! Through Jesus Christ, anything is possible!"

Darklighter

LOL - You don't pull punches do you?

Darklighter

Haha I remember in the not-so-distant past when such arguements used to amaze me... and than I made the mistake of thinking rationally about them.

George S

OT: (Actually, mathematically speaking, 6 is the first perfect number (a technical term for) being a number that is both sum and multiple of the same three numbers. And they are special numbers, at that: 1 (the only integer neither prime nor non-prime), 2 (the only even prime) and 3 (the first odd prime).) :devil1: :devil3: :angel:

Mageth

I think Darklighter was referring to numerology, not mathematics.