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Old 12-07-2007, 08:05 AM   #51
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Both articles would emphatically leave out any arguments from silence, since they are (hopefully) not necessary to make these points. This, BTW, is one thing that I noticed: the repeated assertions in the article about how the author does not say something we would expect him to say seem to intrude on the argument. I'm not saying these assertions are without value in the greater scheme of things, I just wonder if the main points could not be made without them. In other words, completely ignore the gospels and any thoughts derived from it, just focus on the epistle. Would that work?
I have to disagree, Gerard, about there being no necessity to point out 'silences' in the epistle. One of the reasons why my reference to such things is so "repeated" is that scholars at every turn are guilty of filling in those silences by reading Gospel elements into the work. In fact, their whole basis for their historicist analysis of Hebrews is doing that very thing. They not only have to be called on this and have their fallacious methodology discredited, in order to present the contrary case, the mythicist case, the absence of the historical element which scholars claim is there has to be discussed. Moreover, discussing what he does not say is an unavoidable part of discussing what he does say.

People like Don too quickly take refuge in the common stance that any use of the argument of silence is invalid and therefore the whole thing can be blithely dismissed. It's an easy way out which they think absolves them from addressing the meat of the matter, which is based on much more than any reference to what the writer does not say.

The essence of Attridge's and others' presentation of Hebrews' thought is based on their regular claim of "this is what the writer means, implies, has rendered into metaphor,etc.," even though there is no statement, meaning, implication, that such things are present in the text. This cannot be ignored, and is a valid and necessary part of my presentation of the epistle.

I think what you might be suggesting is that it might be possible to present the argument for a mythical Christ in Hebrews without reference to traditional scholarly methodology. This I don't know, but it would certainly remove one of the strengths of the mythicist case to be made here not to reveal the fallacious basis on which traditional scholarship claims validity for its own reading. Besides, they don't deserve not to have that exposed.

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Over the past century, one of the major questions in analyzing the Epistle to the Hebrews has been how to characterize its philosophical and cosmological orientation. Is it Platonic or Jewish? In the first half of the 20th century, scholarly evaluation tended to accentuate the former, seeing the epistle’s thought-world as essentially Platonic, moving in a vertical, dualistic universe of realms heavenly and earthly, the former containing the genuine reality, the latter its imperfect imitation. The latter 20th century saw a shift in approach, preferring a more traditional Jewish reading in terms of linear historical progression from past to present, with messianic and eschatological currents.
Should this not for academic purposes detail who has argued what and when and how the arguments have changed?
Yes, and not only for academic purposes, but so as to allow anyone to see if Earl has got things right, has adequately and accurately summarized the course of 20th century academic research on the background of Hebrews

For his statement raises an important question. And it's not only "Is the assertion that the Hebrews scholarship of the past century has viewed/characterized the philosophical and cosmological orientation of Hebrews in such an "either or fashion" as Earl claims -- as either Platonic or Jewish -- accurate (it's not -- on this, see my friend L.D. Hurst's The Epistle to the Hebrews: It's Background and Thought (Cambridge, 1990); the discussion [which I reproduce below]of this topic by Lane on pp. ciii-cxii in his his commentary on Hebrews that Earl seems not to have read or been aware of did [he certainly didn't take it into account]; and even the analysis of the topic that Ellingworth engages in); but whether Earl's definition of what "more traditional Jewish readings" is set up in such a way so as to reach the conclusion about the background of Hebrews that he wants to reach.

There is also the question of the validity of his claim that the compatibility of the older view with the mythicist interpretation of the Epistle "may be one reason why more recent scholars and apologists have been disposed to downplay if not dismiss a Platonic understanding in the writer’s thought and play up its Jewish elements" (where is this genetic fallacy tinged claim supported, let alone demonstrated?) and whether he is sufficiently acquainted with, grounded in, or has actually grasped, the arguments put forward by those who "play up" (or is it merely draw attention to?) the Epistle's "Jewish" elements and find the "Platonic" view wanting to know what their arguments against the "Platonic" view are, let alone why they make them or hold the position vis a vis the Jewish vs. Platonic bacground of Hebrews that they do.

For instance, the issue of the "Platonic" (or is it Philonic and therefore neo-platoninc) background of Hebrews has specifically been taken up not just by Williamson (with whom Earl seem to be only secondarily and minimally acquainted), but before him by Barret ( “The Eschatology of the Epistle to the Hebrews.” In The Background of the New Testament and Its Eschatology. ed. W. D. Davies and D. Daube. Cambridge: Cambridge UP, 1954. 363–93), by C. Spiq (“L’Épître aux Hébreux, Apollos, Jean-Baptiste, les Hellénistes et Qumran.” RevQ 1 (1958–59) 365–90) who, with the discovery of the DSS abandoned his advocacy of the "Platonic" View, by R.C. P. Hanson (Allegory and Event [London, 1959], F. Schroger (Der Verfasser des Hebräerbriefes als Schriftausleger. Regensburg: Pustet, 1968.), and after him by Hurst, Lane, Koester, Johnson.

Is Earl acquainted with these authors? If not, how can he even hope to say anything about why they say what they say and, more importantly, that the arguments that they raise against the Plato view are no good?

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Conceptual Background
The question of the conceptual background of Hebrews concerns the identification of the cultural and intellectual milieu from which the ideas and themes of the discourse derive. The positing of a particular conceptual background is intended to clarify the distinctive features of the document. During the past century Hebrews has been identified with a variety of widely differing backgrounds. For the sake of clarity and convenience of reference, it will be useful to present the relevant bibliography under headings that identify the dominant influences that have been detected in Hebrews. It will also be practical to differentiate between proposals that locate the conceptual background in a non-Christian setting and those that have tended to identify Hebrews with the mainstream of the Christian tradition or with a particular school of thought within early Christianity. The works listed under each heading include both proponents of a proposal and those who have been critical of the proposal. In the preparation of this commentary, I have enjoyed access to the investigation of the several proposals for the conceptual background of Hebrews completed in 1981 by L. D. Hurst (“The Background and Introduction of the Epistle to the Hebrews,” Dissertation, Oxford University, now published as The Epistle to the Hebrews: Its Background of Thought, SNTSMS 65 [Cambridge: Cambridge UP, 1990]; references are made to Hurst’s dissertation, since I had access to his work only in this form).

Proposals of Non-Christian Backgrounds
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Philo, Alexandria, and Platonism
Bietenhard, H. Die himmlische Welt im Urchristentum und Spätjudentum. WUNT 2. Tübingen: Mohr, 1951. Braun, H. “Das himmlische Vaterland bei Philo und im Hebräerbrief.” In Verborum Veritas. FS G. Stälin. ed. O. Böcher & K. Haacker. Wuppertal: Brockhaus, 1970. 319–27. Burtness, J. H. “Plato, Philo and the author of Hebrews.” LQ 10 (1958) 54–64. Cabantous, J. Philon et l’Épître aux Hébreux ou Essai sur les Rapports del la Christologie de l’Épître aux Hébreux avec la Philosophie Judéo-Alexandrine. Montauban: Granié, 1895. Cambier, J. “Eschatologie ou héllenisme dans l’épître aux Hébreux: Une étude sur μ*νειν et l’exhortation finale de l’épître.” Sal 11 (1949) 62–96. Carlston, C. “The Vocabulary of Perfection in Philo and Hebrews.” In Unity and Diversity in New Testament Theology. FS G. E. Ladd. ed. R. A. Guelich. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1978. 133–60. Cody, A. Heavenly Sanctuary and Liturgy in the Epistle to the Hebrews: The Achievement of Salvation in the Epistle’s Perspective. St. Meinrad, IN: Grail, 1960. Dey, L. K. K. The Intermediary World and Patterns of Perfection in Philo and Hebrews. SBLDS 25. Missoula, MT: Scholars, 1975. Dibelius, M. “Der himmlische Kultus nach dem Hebräerbrief.” TBl 21 (1942) 1–11. Eagar, A. R. “Hellenistic Elements in the Epistle to the Hebrews.” Her 11 (1901) 263–87.Fairhurst, A. M. “Hellenistic Influence in the Epistle to the Hebrews.” TynBul 7–8 (1961) 17–27. Gamble, J. “Symbol and Reality in the Epistle to the Hebrews,” JBL 45 (1926) 162–70. Gilbert, G. H. “The Greek Element in the Epistle to the Hebrews.” AJT 14 (1910) 521–32. Hanson, R. P. C. Allegory and Event. London: SCM, 1959. Héring, J. “Eschatologie biblique et idéalisme platonicien.” In The Background to the New Testament and Its Eschatology. ed. W. D. Davies and D. Daube. Cambridge: Cambridge UP, 1954. 444–63. Hurst, L. D. “The Background and Interpretation of the Epistle to the Hebrews.” Dissertation, University of Oxford, 1981. 5–68 (now published as The Epistle to the Hebrews: Its Background of Thought, SNTSMS 65 [Cambridge: Cambridge UP, 1990]). ———. “Eschatology and ‘Platonism’ in the Epistle to the Hebrews.” SBLASP (1984) 41–74. Luck, U. “Himmlisches und irdisches Geschehen im Hebräerbrief: Ein Beitrag zum Problem des ‘historischer Jesus’ im Urchristentum.” NovT 6 (1963) 192–215. Maar, O. “Philo und Hebräerbrief.” Dissertation, University of Vienna, 1964. Ménégoz, E. La théologie de l’Épître aux Hébreux. Paris: Fischbacher, 1894. Nash, R. H. “The Notion of Mediator in Alexandrian Judaism and the Epistle to the Hebrews.” WTJ 40 (1977) 89–115. Nikiprowetsky, V. “La spiritualisation des sacrifices et le cult sacrificial au temple de Jérusalem chez Philon d’Alexandrie.” Sem. 17 (1967) 98–114. Nomoto, S. “Die Hohenpriester-Typologie im Hebräerbrief: Ihre traditionsgeschichtliche Herkunft und ihr religionsgeschichtlicher Hintergrund.” Dissertation, University of Hamburg, 1965. Schmitz, O. Die Opferanschauung des späteren Judentums und die Opferaussagungen des Neuen Testaments: Eine Untersuchung ihres geschichtlichen Verhältnisses. Tübingen: Mohr, 1910. Sowers, S. G. The Hermeneutics of Philo and Hebrews: A Comparison of the Old Testament in Philo Judaeus and the Epistle to the Hebrews. Richmond: Knox, 1965. Spicq, C.“Alexandrinismes dans l’Épître auxHébreux.” RB 58 (1951) 481–502. ———. “Le Philonisme de l’Épître aux Hébreux.” RB 56 (1949) 542–72; 57 (1950) 212–42. Staples, A. F. “The Book of Hebrews in Its Relationship to the Writings of Philo Judaeus.” Dissertation, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, 1951. Thurston, R. W. “Philo and the Epistle to the Hebrews.” EvQ 58 (1986) 133–43. Wenschkewitz, H. “Die Spiritualisierung der Kultusbegriffe Tempel, Priester und Opfer im Neuen Testament.” Angelos 4 (1932) 70–230. Wette, W. M. L. de. “Über die symbolisch-typische Lehrart des Briefes an die Hebräer.” TZ 3 (1822) 1–51. Wikgren, A. “Patterns of Perfection in the Epistle to the Hebrews.” NTS 6 (1959–60) 159–67. Williamson, R. Philo and the Epistle to the Hebrews. ALGHJ 4. Leiden: Brill, 1970. ———. “Philo and New Testament Christology.” ExpTim 90 (1980) 361–65. ———. “Platonism and Hebrews.” SJT 16 (1963) 415–24.

Qumran
Batdorf, I. W. “Hebrews and Qumran: Old Methods and New Directions.” In FS F. W. Gingrich. ed. E. H. Barth and R. E. Cocroft. Leiden: Brill, 1972. 16–35. Betz, O. “The Eschatological Interpretation of the Sinai-Tradition in Qumran and in the NT.” RevQ 6 (1967) 89–108. Braun, H. “Qumran und das Neue Testament: Ein Bericht über 10 Jahr Forschung (1950–59): Hebräer.” TRu 30 (1964) 1–38. Bruce, F. F. “ ‘To the Hebrews’ or ‘To the Essenes’?” NTS 9 (1963) 217–32. Buchanan, G. W. “The Present State of Scholarship on Hebrews.” In Christianity, Judaism and Other Greco-Roman Cults. FS M. Smith. ed. J. Neusner. Leiden: Brill, 1975. 1:299–330. Carmignac, J. “Le document de Qumran sur Melkisédeq.” RevQ 27 (1970) 348–78. Coppens, J. “Les Affinitiés Qumraêniennes de l’Épître aux Hébreux.” NRT 84 (1962) 128–41, 257–82. Delcor, M. “Melchizedek from Genesis to the Qumran Texts and the Epistle to the Hebrews.” JSJ 2 (1971) 115–35. Fensham, F. C. “Hebrews and Qumran.” Neot 5 (1971) 9–21. Fitzmyer, J. A. “Further Light on Melchizedek from Qumran Cave 11.” JBL 86 (1967) 25–41. ———. “Now this Melchizedek … (Heb. 7:1).” CBQ 25 (1963) 305–21. Gemés, I. “Alianca no Documento de Damasco e na Ep*stola aos Hebreus. Una contribuicão a questão: Qumran e as origens do Christianismo.” RCB 6 (1969) 28–68. Gnilka, J. “Der Erwartung des messianisches Hohenpriesters in den Schriften von Qumran und im Neuen Testament.” RevQ 2 (1960) 395–426. Grothe, J. F. “Was Jesus the Priestly Messiah? A Study of the New Testament’s Teaching of Jesus’ Priestly Office against the Background of Jewish Hopes for a Priestly Messiah.” Dissertation, Concordia Seminary, St. Louis, 1981. Higgins, A. J. B. “The Priestly Messiah.” NTS 13 (1967) 211–39. Hurst, L. D. “The Background and Interpretation of the Epistle to the Hebrews.” Dissertation, University of Oxford, 1981. 69–114 (see under “Philo, Alexandria, and Platonism” above). Jonge, M. de, and Woude, A. S. van der. “2Q Melchizedek and the New Testament.” NTS 12 (1965–66) 301–26. Kosmala, H. Hebräer, Essener, Christen: Studien zur Vorgeschichte der frühchristlichen Verkündigung. SPB 1. Leiden: Brill, 1959. LaSor, W. S. “The Epistle to the Hebrews and the Qumran Writings.” In The Dead Sea Scrolls and the New Testament. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1972. 179–90. Spicq, C. “L’Épître aux Hébreux, Apollos, Jean-Baptiste, les Hellénistes et Qumran.” RevQ 1 (1958–59) 365–90. Woude, A. S. van der. “Melchisedek als himmlische Erlösergestalt in den neugefundeneschatologischen Midraschim aus Qumran Höhle XI.” OTS 14 (1965) 354–73. Yadin, Y. “The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Epistle to the Hebrews.” ScrHier 4 (1958) 36–55.

Apocalyptic Judaism
Barrett, C. K. “The Eschatology of the Epistle to the Hebrews.” In The Background of the New Testament and Its Eschatology. ed. W. D. Davies and D. Daube. Cambridge: Cambridge UP, 1954. 363–93. Hofius, O. Katapausis: Die Vorstellung vom endzeitlichen Ruheort im Hebräerbrief. WUNT 11. Tübingen: Mohr, 1970. Lueken, W. Michael: Eine Darstellung und Vergleichung der jüdischen und der morgenländisch-christlichen Tradition vom Erzengel Michael. Göttingen: Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht, 1898. MacRae, G. W. “Heavenly Temple and Eschatology in the Letter to the Hebrews.” Semeia 12 (1978) 179–99. McNicol, A. J. “The Relationship of the Image of the Highest Angel to the High Priest Concept in Hebrews.” Dissertation, Vanderbilt University, 1974. McRay, J. “Atonement and Apocalyptic in the Book of Hebrews.” ResQ 23 (1980) 1–9. Schmidgall, P. “The Influence of Jewish Apocalyptic Literature on the Book of Hebrews.” Dissertation, Western Kentucky University, 1980. Zorn, R. “Die Fürbitte und Interzession im Spätjudentum und im Neuen Testament.” Dissertation, University of Göttingen, 1957.

Merkabah Mysticism
Hurst, L. D. “The Background and Interpretation of the Epistle to the Hebrews.” Dissertation, University of Oxford, 1981. 133–39 (see under “Philo, Alexandria, and Platonism” above). Hofius, O. Der Christushymnus Philipper 2.6–11. Tübingen: Mohr, 1976. 87–88. ———. Der Vorhang vor dem Thron Gottes: Eine exegetisch-religionsgeschichtliche Untersuchung zu Hebräer 6, 19f. und 10, 19f. WUNT 14. Tübingen: Mohr, 1972. Schenke, H.-M. “Erwägung zum Rätsel des Hebräerbriefes.” In Neues Testament und christliche Existenz. FS H. Braun. ed. H. D. Betz & L. Schrottroff. Tübingen: Mohr, 1973. 421–37. Scholem, G. Major Trends in Jewish Mysticism. New York: KTAV, 1954. Williamson, R. “The Background to the Epistle to the Hebrews.” ExpTim 87 (1975–76) 232–37.

The Samaritans
Bowman, J. “Early Samaritan Eschatology.” JJS 6 (1955) 63–72. Cullmann, O. “Samaria and the Origins of the Christian Mission.” In The Early Church. Philadelphia: Westminster, 1956. Hurst, L. D. “The Background and Interpretation of the Epistle to the Hebrews.” Dissertation, University of Oxford, 1981. 125–32 (see under “Philo, Alexandria, and Platonism” above). Knox, E. A. “The Samaritans and the Epistle to the Hebrews.” TCh 22 (1927) 184–93. MacDonald, J. “The Samaritan Doctrine of Moses.” SJT 13 (1960) 149–62. Plummer, R. “The Samaritan Pentateuch and the New Testament.” NTS 22 (1976) 441–43. Scobie, C. H. H. “The Origins and Development of Samaritan Christianity.” NTS 19 (1972–73) 390–414.

Pre-Christian Gnosticism
Bornkamm, G. “Das Bekenntnis im Hebräerbrief.” TBl 21 (1942) 56–66. Colpe, C. “New Testament and Gnostic Christology.” In Religions in Antiquity. FS E. R. Goodenough. ed. J. Neusner. Leiden: Brill, 1968. 227–43. Eccles, R. S. “Hellenistic Mysticism in the Epistle to the Hebrews.” Dissertation, Yale University, 1952. ———. “The Purpose of Hellenistic Patterns in the Epistle to the Hebrews.” In Religions in Antiquity. FS E. R. Goodenough. ed. J. Neusner. Leiden: Brill, 1968. 207–26. Friedländer, M. “La sect de Melchisédech et l’Épître aux Hébreux.” RÉJ 5 (1882) 1–26, 188–98; 6 (1883) 187–99. Giversen, S. “Evangelium Veritatis and the Epistle to the Hebrews.” ST 13 (1959) 87–96. Grässer, E. “Das wandernde Gottesvolk zum Basismotiv des Hebräerbriefes.” ZNW 77 (1986) 160–79. ———. Der Glaube im Hebräerbrief. Marburg: Elwert, 1965. ———. “Zur Christologie des Hebräerbriefes: Eine Auseinandersetzung mit Herbert Braun.” In Neues Testament und christliche Existenz. FS H. Braun. ed. H. D. Betz & L. Schrottroff. Tübingen: Mohr, 1973. Hurst, L. D. “The Background and Interpretation of the Epistle to the Hebrews.” Dissertation, University of Oxford, 1981. 116–25 (see under “Philo, Alexandria, and Platonism” above). Käsemann, E. Das wandernde Gottesvolk: Eine Untersuchung zum Hebräerbrief4 . FRLANT 55. 1939. Göttingen: Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht, 1961 [ET: The Wandering People of God: An Investigation of the Letter to the Hebrews. tr. R. A. Harrisville and I. L. Sandberg. Minneapolis: Augsburg, 1984]. Koester, W. “Platonische Ideenwelt und Gnosis im Hebräerbrief.” Schol 4 (1956) 545–55. Maxwell, K. L. “Doctrine and Parenesis in the Epistle to the Hebrews, with Special Reference to Pre-Christian Gnosticism.” Dissertation, Yale University, 1952. Pearson, B. A. “The Figure of Melchizedek in the First Tractate of the Unpublished Coptic-Gnostic Codex IX from Nag Hammadi.” In Proceedings from the XIIth International Congress of the International Association for the History of Religions. ed. C. J. Bleeker, G. Widengren, and E. J. Sharpe. Leiden: Brill, 1975. 200–208. Theissen, G. Untersuchungen zum Hebräerbrief. SNT 2. Gütersloh: Mohn, 1969. Thompson, J. W. The Beginnings of Christian Philosophy: The Epistle to the Hebrews. CBQMS 13. Washington, DC: The Catholic Biblical Association of America, 1981. ———. “The Conceptual Background and Purpose of the Midrash in Hebrews VII.” NovT 19 (1977) 209–23. ———. “Heb. 9 and Hellenistic Concepts of Sacrifice.” JBL 98 (1979) 567–78. ———. “‘That Which Abides’: Some Metaphysical Assumptions in the Epistle to the Hebrews.” Dissertation, Vanderbilt University, 1974. ———. “That Which Cannot Be Shaken: Some MetaphysicalAssumptions in Heb. 12:27.” JBL 94 (1975) 580–87. Waal, C. van der. “The ‘People of God’ in the Epistle to the Hebrews.” Neot 5 (1971) 83–92. Wilson, R. McL. Gnosis and the New Testament. Oxford: Blackwell, 1968.

Mystery Religions
Riggenbach, E. “Der Begriff der ΤΕΛΕΙΩΣΙΣ im Hebräerbrief: Ein Beitrag zur Frage nach der Einwirkung der Mysterienreligion auf Sprache und Gedankenwelt des Neuen Testaments.” NKZ 34 (1923) 184–95.

Once the Pauline authorship of Hebrews was considered indefensible, it was necessary to inquire concerning the conceptual background that made Hebrews intelligible. The dominant proposal during the first half of the twentieth century was that Hebrews is clarified when read against the background of Philo, Alexandria, and Platonism. When C. Spicq lent the weight of his erudition to this proposal (RB 56 [1949] 542–72; 57 [1950] 212–42; RB 58 [1951] 481–502) and demonstrated its cogency in his massive two-volume commentary on Hebrews, it attained the status of a critical consensus. Some form of affinity with Alexandria, Platonism, and Philo provided the explanation for the distinctive features of Hebrews. (For a helpful summary of the arguments mounted in support of Philonic influence on Hebrews, see Hurst, “Background,” 6–14.)

Two quite independent developments dismantled the consensus. First, the publication of the sectarian Jewish documents from Qumran was greeted with enthusiasm and diverted the attention of the academic community away from the dominant proposal in an insatiable quest to find a new key for unlocking old riddles. Even C. Spicq was sufficiently impressed by the new evidence to modify his own proposal that Hebrews was the work of a Philonist who had been converted to Christianity. He now argued that the author was Apollos, whose background in Alexandria clarified the contacts with Philo he had early demonstrated. But he was writing to a group of Jewish priests who had enjoyed contact with Qumran and who had recently fled from Jerusalem to Antioch (RevQ 1 [1958–59] 365–90).

The second development would prove to be more devastating. C. Spicq’s arguments in support of Philonic influence on Hebrews began to be sifted by R. P. C. Hanson (Allegory, 83–86) and F. Schröger (Verfasser, 301–7). They showed that the purported similarities between Philo and Hebrews could be satisfactorily explained by reference to other forms of Judaism unrelated to Philo. The sharpest blow was delivered by R. Williamson in a meticulous study of the evidence that had appeared to be impeccable when presented by Spicq (Philo and the Epistle to the Hebrews [1970]). Williamson demonstrated that Spicq’s research was flawed and that he had overstated his case. He concluded that the differences between Philo and the writer of Hebrews were so striking and fundamental, both in outlook and exegetical method, as to demonstrate that the two writers “belonged … to two entirely different schools of O.T. exegesis” (PhiloAbr, 576–79; for a review of the case against Philonic influence on Hebrews, see Hurst, “Background,” 14–22).

Williamson’s argument has now been strengthened by L. D. Hurst’s extensive analysis of terms not treated by Williamson and by his fresh investigation of Jewish apocalyptic as the proper background against which to read elements in Hebrews that previously had been judged to be Platonic (“Background,” 22–68). Hurst concludes that Philo and the writer of Hebrews shared a common conceptual background rooted in the Old Greek version of the Bible. Philo chose to develop certain OT themes Platonically. The writer of Hebrews, under the influences of Jewish apocalyptic and primitive Christian tradition, chose to develop them eschatologically. This conclusion is supported by the research underlying the present commentary (see Comment on 1:1–2α; 2:5; 6:5; 8:5; 9:8, 11, 23–24; 10:20; 11:10, 16; 12:22, 26–28; 13:14).

The publication of the scrolls from Qumran brought to light an expression of sectarian Judaism that has been identified with the Essenes. The first serious attempt to propose Qumran as the conceptual background of the intended audience in Hebrews, which clarifies distinctive features of the argument of Hebrews, was published in 1955 by Y. Yadin (ScrHier 4 [1958] 36–55). He suggested that those addressed in Hebrews had formerly been members of the Qumran community and that they continued to hold some of their prior beliefs (38). In support of this proposal, Yadin identified several points of contact between the argument in Hebrews and the sectarian beliefs at Qumran. Yadin’s proposal was quickly followed by others who found in Qumran the conceptual basis for regarding believers as the community of the new covenant, for the conception of Jesus as a priestly Messiah, and for the distinctive interest in the person of Melchizedek in Hebrews. This construction of the conceptual background is the basis for the commentaries of G. W. Buchanan and P. E. Hughes. Hughes referred to Yadin’s article as “the best theory yet advanced to explain the occasion and purpose of the Epistle to the Hebrews” (14).

Little consideration seemed to have been given to the striking linguistic and conceptual differences between the scrolls and Hebrews. The scrolls from Qumran were written in Hebrew and Aramaic and are Semitic in conception; Hebrews is written in exceptional Greek and is hellenistic Jewish in conception. Detailed consideration of the arguments offered by Yadin and others in support of their proposal have shown them to be capable of other, more plausible explanations (cf. F. F. Bruce, NTS 9 [1963] 217–32; Coppens, NRT 84 [1962] 128–41, 257–82; Hurst, “Background,” 72–114). Moreover, the differences in the OT text to which an appeal is made and to the conception of the role of Melchizedek in 11QMelch and Hebrews are so fundamental as to preclude any influence of 11QMelch upon the argument developed in Hebrews (see Comment on Heb 7:1–25). There is no sound basis for affirming that Qumran provides the conceptual background for Hebrews. Similarities because of traditional exegesis of the OT are insufficient to offset the striking differences between Qumran and Hebrews.

The proposal that the conceptual background for Hebrews may be found in Jewish Merkabah mysticism was advanced in 1973 by H.-M. Schenke (“Erwägung zum Rätsel des Hebräerbriefes,” 433–34). Jewish mysticism in this tradition displays a fascination with God’s throne as the focus for emphasizing God’s majesty, holiness, and transcendent glory. Hebrews, with its interest in the heavenly cultus, seemed to reflect these vital interests (e.g., Heb 1:3, 6; 2:10; 4:16; 8:1; 12:2, 10, 14). This suggestion was taken up and developed by R. Williamson in 1976 (ExpTim 87 [1975–76] 232–37). He marshalled ten arguments in support of this proposal and appealed to their cumulative weight. He recognized that the evidence to which he had to appeal for the reconstruction of Merkabah mysticism was late and openly acknowledged that the similarities he had shown between this form of piety and Hebrews could be explained on the basis of a common indebtedness to the OT.

An objection that tends to vitiate Williamson’s proposal is the absence in Hebrews of any appeal to those passages in the OT that became central in later Merkabah mysticism (e.g., Dan 7; Isa 6; Ps 97; Ezek 1). In his own evaluation of the proposal, Hurst demonstrated that the purported parallels to which Williamson appealed were susceptible of other explanations and that the influences could have entered Hebrews from other expressions of Judaism, or even from Christian tradition reflected elsewhere in the NT (“Background,” 136–37). Many of these parallels have their source in the Psalms and in apocalyptic Judaism.

More influential has been E. Käsemann’s proposal that the conceptual background for Hebrews should be located in pre-Christian Gnosticism (Das wandernde Gottesvolk [ET: The Wandering People of God]). Käsemann detected behind Hebrews the gnostic motif of the heavenly pilgrimage of the self from the enslaving world of matter to the heavenly realm of the spirit. He provided a thorough exposition of Hebrews against this background and identified the motif of pilgrimage as central to the development of Hebrews. (For a review of his argument and evaluation, see Hurst, “Background,” 116–25.) Käsemann’s proposal has been supported and developed in the important work of E. Grässer (see especially his monograph Der Glaube im Hebräerbrief, and now An die Hebräer: 1. Teilband: Hebr 1–6, EKKNT 17/1 [Zürich: Benziger, 1990]), G. Theissen Untersuchungen zur Hebräerbrief), and J. W. Thompson, who finds evidence for a gnostic-Platonic background for Hebrews (see especially The Beginnings of Christian Philosophy).

Despite the strength of the support for this proposal in the academic community, it is hampered by a number of crippling objections. Chief among them are the following. The sources to which Käsemann appealed (Mandaean, Manichaean, Rabbinic, Hermetic, the Acts of Thomas, Pistis Sophia, 3 Enoch, the Odes of Solomon) are late; it cannot be demonstrated that they reflect traditions that antedate Hebrews. Moreover, there is no documentary support for the existence in the first century of a myth of the redeemed redeemer, who descends from heaven to lead those enslaved in the material realm on pilgrimage to the heavenly realm of light (see especially Colpe, “New Testament and Gnostic Christology,” 227–43). The gratuitous assertion that Melchizedek was considered an incarnation of the primal Man in Jewish sources is without support. Finally, the existence of any first-century Gnosticism, or proto-Gnosticism, that could have supplied the conceptual background for Hebrews has not been established.

The components of the conceptual background that illumines Hebrews from a non-Christian background consist of influences from the interpretation of the OT in Greek, the traditions of hellenistic Judaism (which is not to say Philonic or Platonic), and of apocalyptic Judaism. It is obvious that all of these components could have been filtered through the mainstream of early Christianity to which the writer of Hebrews was exposed at the formative period in his experience as a Christian.

Proposals of Christian Backgrounds
Bibliography

Primitive Christian Tradition
Barrett, C. K. “The Eschatology of the Epistle to the Hebrews.” In The Background of the New Testament and Its Eschatology. ed. W. D. Davies and D. Daube. Cambridge: Cambridge UP, 1954. 363–93. Dukes, J. G. “Eschatology in the Epistle to the Hebrews.” Dissertation, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, 1956. Feuillet, A. “Les points de vue nouveaux dans l’eschatologie de l’Épître aux Hébreux.” SE 2 (1964) 369–87. Gordon, V. R. “Studies in the Covenantal Theology of the Epistle to the Hebrews in Light of Its Setting.” Disseration, Fuller Theological Seminary, 1979. Klappert, B. Die Eschatologie des Hebräerbriefs. Munich: Kaiser, 1969. Peterson, D. G. Hebrews and Perfection: An Examination of the Concept of Perfection in the “Epistle to the Hebrews.” SNTSMS 47. Cambridge: Cambridge UP, 1982. Silva, M. “Perfection and Eschatology in Hebrews.” WTJ 39 (1976) 60–71. Terra, J. E. M. “A Libertação Eschatológica na Ep*stola aos Hebreus: O Povo de Deus a Caminho do Santúario.” RCB 2 (1978) 325–43.

Paul
Anderson, C. P. “Hebrews among the Letters of Paul.” SR 5 (1975–76) 258–66. ———. “The Setting of the Epistle to the Hebrews.” Dissertation, Columbia University, 1969. Badcock, F. J. The Pauline Epistles and the Epistle to the Hebrews in Their Historical Setting. London: SPCK, 1937. Burch, V. The Epistle to the Hebrews: Its Sources and Message. London: William & Norgate, 1936. Hurst, L. D. “The Background and Interpretation of the Epistle to the Hebrews.” Dissertation, University of Oxford, 1981. 175–236 (now published as The Epistle to the Hebrews: Its Background of Thought, SNTSMS 65 [Cambridge: Cambridge UP, 1990]). Schröger, F. “Der Hebräerbrief—paulinisch?” In Kontinuität und Einheit. FS F. Mussner. ed. P. G. Müller & W. Stenger. Freiburg/Basel/Vienna: Herder, 1981. 211–22. Taylor, C. D. “A Comparative Study of the Concepts of Worship in Colossians and Hebrews.” Dissertation, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, 1957. Vanhoye, A. “L’Épître aux Ephésiens et l’Épître aux Hébreux.” Bib 59 (1978) 198–230.

John
Cothenet, E., LeFort, P., Prigent, P., and Dussaut, L. Les écrits de Saint Jean et l’Épître aux Hébreux. Paris: Desclée, 1984. Henderson, M. W. “The Priestly Ministry of Jesus in the Gospel of John and the Epistle to the Hebrews.” Dissertation, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, 1965. Hickling, C. J. A. “John and Hebrews: The Background of Hebrews 2:10–18.” NTS 29 (1983) 112–16. Spicq, C. “L’Origine johannique de la conception du Christ-prêtre dans l’Épître aux Hébreux.” In Aux Sources de la Tradition Chrétienne. FS M. Goguel. Neuchâtel/Paris: Delachaux & Niestlé, 1956. 258–69.

Other Influences
Ferris, T. E. S. “A Comparison of I Peter and Hebrews.” CQR 3 (1930–31) 123–27. Graham, A. A. K. “Mark and Hebrews.” SE 4 (1968) 411–16. Jones, C. P. M. “The Epistle to the Hebrews and the Lucan Writings.” In Studies in the Gospels. FS R. H. Lightfoot. ed. D. E. Nineham. Oxford: Oxford UP, 1957. 113–43.

Among the primary influences to which the writer was exposed as a Christian was the eschatological perspective of the early Christian movement. He shares with primitive Christianity the understanding that the ministry of Jesus introduced the final phase of history (Heb 1:2a). That insight had been validated by the experience of the powers of the age to come breaking into the structures of the present age (see Comment on 2:3–4; 6:5). The writer was convinced that the next event on God’s agenda was the consummation, when Jesus would appear to bring the realization of salvation to all who were waiting for him (see Comment on 9:28; cf. 10:25, 35–39). He shared with others in the early Church in an earnest expectation of the apocalyptic manifestation of the city God has prepared for his people (11:10, 16; 12:22–24; 13:14). The conceptual background of Hebrews is richly informed by primitive Christian eschatology and by the perspectives of Jewish apocalyptic.

A second primary influence upon the writer is the tradition associated with Stephen and the early Christian Hellenists (see below, “Hebrews and the Theology of the Hellenistic Church,” with bibliography). In his own assessment of this influence upon the conceptual background of Hebrews, L. D. Hurst has strengthened the case for Christian Hellenism as a formative influence upon the writer of Hebrews (“Background,” 140–74).

A third influence may have been exerted through the writer’s association with Paul or with one or more of his associates. The reference to Timothy in Heb 13:23 lends plausibility to the suggestion that the writer was a member of the Pauline circle. It is the merit of Hurst to have investigated this question from a fresh perspective (“Background,” 175–236). Although there is no evidence in Hebrews of a literary dependence upon the letters of Paul, it is certainly possible that the apostolic tradition upon which the writer drew had been influenced at certain strategic points by Paul. It is this possibility that Hurst has explored by selecting five sample motifs that permit a comparison between the theology of Paul and that of Hebrews. For example, both Paul and the writer of Hebrews appear to interpret Ps 8:4–6 in terms of the promised human destiny rather than from an exclusively christological perspective (cf. 1 Cor. 15:22–28; Rom 8:20; Heb 2:6–9). For both writers, human destiny and vocation are realized in the man Jesus (Hurst, “Background,” 181–89). Hurst posits some form of preliterary contact between Paul and the author of Hebrews.

Hurst pursues this line of inquiry in reference to Christ’s glory and role in creation and in sustaining the cosmos, his humbling as man, his obedience and subsequent exaltation, the idea of faith, and the concept of union with Christ. In each instance he finds striking similarities and differences. The similarities are sufficient to establish some form of contact. Yet the differences are sufficiently numerous to preclude literary contact. Hurst suggests that the writer of Hebrews may have discussed his ideas with Paul or with one or more of Paul’s associates who had been influenced by the Apostle. The development of the ideas is his own, but a formative influence upon the conceptual background of Hebrews is Paul. If this conclusion can be sustained, it will do much to locate Hebrews within the mainstream of Christian tradition.

The primary concern in this commentary has been to interpret the statement of Hebrews from the rich perspectives developed in Hebrews. The distinctiveness of the writer’s own theological understanding to that of Paul’s or others within the early Church has sometimes been stressed (see, for example, on the writer’s use of “promise” in 4:1; 6:12, 13–20; 10:23, 35–36, or his use of “faith” in 4:2; 6:12; 10:22; 11:1). This should not obscure the fact that the conceptual background of the writer of Hebrews was indelibly informed by the early Christian tradition, particularly as this was transmitted in the hellenistic wing of the Church.
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if we let the text speak for itself, we see what appear to be references to a historical Jesus without any need to refer to Gospel accounts.
I concur. When it comes to interpreting any text, the first place to begin is the text itself. The text of Hebrews has some language which convincingly suggests a historical Jesus. Hebrews 5:7 7 While he was here on earth (some translations read "In the days of his flesh), (S)He offered up both prayers and supplications with (T)loud crying and tears to the One (U)able to save Him from death, and He was heard because of His (V)piety.

Hebrews 2:14 Because God’s children are human beings—made of flesh and blood—the Son also became flesh and blood by being born in human form. For only as a human being could he die, and only by dying could he break the power of the devil, who had[g] the power of death.


I cannot find any evidence in Hebrews or elsewhere to suggest the "days of his flesh" existed anywhere but here on earth. Hebrews 2:14 states only as a human being could he die and he was made flesh and blood, born in human form, so he could die. There is no evidence human beings are "born" in any other realm other than on earth. There is no evidence human beings die in any other realm other than earth. There is no evidence Jesus did this in any realm other than earth. One has to assume Jesus experienced the flesh and death in a realm other than death.

I concur with your analysis.
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People like Don too quickly take refuge in the common stance that any use of the argument of silence is invalid and therefore the whole thing can be blithely dismissed.
I have no problems with arguments from silence. But far better to start with not reading anything into the text at first (Gospel details or "sublunar fleshly realms"), and let the text speak for itself.

If we didn't know the Gospels, this is what we would learn about Jesus, "the author and finisher of our faith":

Jesus arose from the tribe of Judah, and in the days of his flesh offered up prayers and supplications with vehement cries and tears. He endured hostility from sinners. He suffered temptation, and was in all points tempted as we are. He was crucified "outside the gates" of a city, and, enduring the cross, despising the shame, suffered death and entered into heaven itself. He will appear a second time to those who eagerly wait for him.

I would ask someone who is not a historicist (so either a mythicist or HJ-agnostic) to go through Earl's responses, keeping in mind NOT to read the Gospels into any passages, to see if placing those events in a "sublunar fleshly realm" is better supported than placing the events on earth. (As always, I'll add the proviso that placing them on earth doesn't prove historicity, it just adds to evidence against Earl's particular theory).
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I cannot find any evidence in Hebrews or elsewhere to suggest the "days of his flesh" existed anywhere but here on earth. Hebrews 2:14 states only as a human being could he die and he was made flesh and blood, born in human form, so he could die. There is no evidence human beings are "born" in any other realm other than on earth. There is no evidence human beings die in any other realm other than earth. There is no evidence Jesus did this in any realm other than earth. One has to assume Jesus experienced the flesh and death in a realm other than death.

I concur with your analysis.
Thanks James. It's not really my analysis, though. Chris Price addresses Earl's use of Hebrews in several excellent articles here:
http://www.bede.org.uk/price2.htm
http://www.bede.org.uk/price3.htm

Earl does address some of Chris's comments in his new article on Hebrews.
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Hebrews 5:7 7 While he was here on earth (some translations read "In the days of his flesh), (S)He offered up both prayers and supplications with (T)loud crying and tears to the One (U)able to save Him from death, and He was heard because of His (V)piety.

Hebrews 2:14 Because God’s children are human beings—made of flesh and blood—the Son also became flesh and blood by being born in human form. For only as a human being could he die, and only by dying could he break the power of the devil, who had[g] the power of death.
Please identify the translation you are using.
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Once again, Jeffrey has given us a long quote of what other people have said, without offering a single idea of his own, let alone a single counter to any analysis or argument to be found in my article. If he actually read the latter, he would see that I am quite justified in saying that more recent scholarship has "played up" the supposed Jewish element in Hebrews at the expense of the Platonic, rather than just "called attention to it." If he thinks I have misrepresented the situation, then it is up to him to demonstrate this, not continually ask for more from me while he contributes nothing of substance. I spoke of "the burden of the challenge" recently with Chris Weimer. It is a burden which few on this board seem willing or able to meet.

And not a single thing that I can see contained within the lengthy excerpt Jeffrey has given us compromises, let alone destroys, the arguments I have made. Of course, it's impossible to tell, since Jeffrey fails to apply the writings he appeals to directly to my study and show how they in fact discredit my presentation. But this is Jeffrey's shtick, and we are all familiar with it. The other thing that is overlooked here is that addressing a hundred 'misguided' analyses and "readings into" a document serves no more useful purpose than addressing a half-dozen representative samplings of such misreadings.

Until we get Jeffrey to address the arguments and details of my piece and try to disprove them by actual and legitimate argumentation of his own, or by applying the endless quotes he supplies to it, he will continue to contribute nothing to this thread except a lot of obfuscation and wasted bandwidth.

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It was a blood that in Christ’s human incarnation was the blood of matter. In that respect it was not spiritual, and the writer would merely be comparing a material thing with another material thing. Nor does he address how Christ’s earthly blood, shed on Calvary, was transformed into spiritual blood before being brought to heaven... The author of Hebrews does nothing to address these anomalies.
I'm not sure why Earl sees this as an anomaly. The author refers to Moses's sprinkling of blood on the Book of the Covenant as sealing the covenant. This was done on earth, so why can't Christ's sprinkling of blood be done on earth as well? In fact, the author goes on to state that it is Christ's blemish-free sacrifice sprinkling of blood, as well as his death, that was enough to seal the covenant…
Anyone who has read the article with any degree of understanding will immediately see, Don, that you haven’t grasped anything about it or Hebrews. Why can’t Christ’s sprinkling of blood be done on earth as well? Because the whole point is that it is a “perfect” and “spiritual” sacrifice, presented as taking place in heaven as a counterpart to the earthly sacrifices. Even the orthodox reading of 8:4 tells you that Christ couldn’t perform his priestly duty on earth. That’s why it can’t be done on earth. No wonder I can never get anything across to you. You have completely ignored my whole argumentation on this matter, much less answered it.

You go on to refer to 9:16-17 which refers to a “death,” and think that the simple use of a term in any context is sufficient to justify you applying it in whatever way you choose. Nowhere does the writer say that his “death” sealed the covenant. (The most he ever says is in 9:15, that “a death brought about deliverance from sins committed under the old covenant,” and even that is compromised by the context, as I analyze in detail.) It was the usage of the blood in the heavenly sanctuary which resulted from that death, applied in the heavenly sanctuary, which has produced the new covenant, as the very verses you quote in regard to Moses' actions at the old covenant's establishment should tell you. This reminds me of how you took terms and ideas in Minucius Felix and understood them as meaning whatever you wanted them to mean, regardless of how much violence that did to a rational parsing of the text itself.

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Here Earl makes his usual point: we shouldn't read Gospel accounts into the early epistles, but OTOH he is happy to determine what Gospel accounts ought to be found in those early epistles. Yet if we let the text speak for itself, we see what appear to be references to a historical Jesus without any need to refer to Gospel accounts. As Chris Price writes in his article on Earl's use of Hebrews: http://www.bede.org.uk/price3.htm:
Hebrews contains many references to a historical, earthly Jesus. According to Hebrews, Jesus 1) came "into the world," 2) "took part" "in all things" human in "flesh and blood" form, 3) was of the "the seed of Abraham," 4) was born of "the tribe of Judah," 5) "cried out to God" during "his days on earth," 6) was "crucified" at a geographical location "outside the gates" of a city, 7) suffered and died as a result of his crucifixion, 8) was resurrected from the dead, and 9) ascended into heaven.
These arguably relate to a historical person, even in the absence of Gospel accounts…
And thus you ignore every argument I put forward in relation to every one of those claims raised by Christopher Price, as though I had never spoken them, as though you had never read them (maybe you didn’t). I have often tried to point out, and especially to you, that it does not constitute a rejoinder to simply restate one’s ‘case’ as though nothing has intervened in the meantime to respond to that case, and when you have offered nothing to counter that response. And if, after all the discussion that has gone on over the years about gods suffering and dying, you can still blithely offer “7) suffered and died as a result of his crucifixion,” as an automatic reference to an historical Jesus, then you have simply demonstrated how hopeless it is for any mythicist to spend any time here trying to make the simplest point.

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Please quote the passage that tells you, in the simplest terms, that a blemish-free sacrifice on earth purifies objects in heaven. And here, you also have completely ignored my discussion of the question of the purification of heavenly objects.

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A point Earl doesn't seem to address:
Hebrews 12
1 Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, 2 looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
3 For consider Him who endured such hostility from sinners against Himself
Who were the "sinners"? Earl doesn't address this AFAICS. Demons? But why not call them demons?
Now I know you didn’t read the piece.

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Christ has entered "into heaven itself". Where was he before? In a lower celestial heaven, in the "days of his flesh"? Earl can't support the idea that this was anywhere but on earth, AFAICS.
I’ve supported it throughout the entire study. And I devoted many paragraphs each to “in the days of his flesh,” to “of the tribe of Judah,” to 8:4’s ‘he was never on earth’ (everybody’s favorite “smoking gun”), none of which arguments you choose to even attempt to counter. Your “AFAICS” is really your way of throwing in the towel and failing back on the argument to personal incredulity.

If you can’t come up with something more substantial than this, Don, I am not going to spend any further time responding to you.

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Until we get Jeffrey to address the arguments and details of my piece and try to disprove them by actual and legitimate argumentation of his own, or by applying the endless quotes he supplies to it, he will continue to contribute nothing to this thread except a lot of obfuscation and wasted bandwidth.
Umm ... I did address a "detail" of your argument, and a foundational detail at that -- i.e., that scholars have been divided between only two alternatives when it comes to the question of the conceptual background of Hebrews. And I did state my opinion on this -- that you were wrong and that scholars have considered a far greater range of options for the conceptual background of Hebrews than you allow (or seem to be familiar with). And since one way of arguing that my stance on this matter is true is to adduce data that supports my claim, I am flummoxed that you think that in doing just this that I have contributed nothing to the matter at hand.

Or is the claim you make above another instance of your getting things wrong because you "misremembered" what I said?

In any case, would you be so kind as to tell me what you think is "legitimate argumentation" and the criteria that you use to determine "argumentation" as such?

And can you please be more specific about what you mean by "played up"? Is this a descriptive or an evaluative expression?

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I concur. When it comes to interpreting any text, the first place to begin is the text itself. The text of Hebrews has some language which convincingly suggests a historical Jesus. Hebrews 5:7 7 While he was here on earth (some translations read "In the days of his flesh), (S)He offered up both prayers and supplications with (T)loud crying and tears to the One (U)able to save Him from death, and He was heard because of His (V)piety.
Some translations read "in the days of his flesh," because that is literally what the Greek says. Odd, isn't it? Since some translations render this "while he was here on earth" as the presumed and natural meaning, I wonder why didn't the author himself didn't say it that way?

And perhaps you would like to explain why the things he did "in the days of his flesh" are passages taken from scripture, rather than historical tradition.

I would suggest, before making any further comment on this or any other subject in Hebrews, that you read the article. Then you will at least have the benefit of being familiar with what mythicism is saying, and its alternate explanations for the things which seem so "convincing" to you.

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