meritocrat

Why can't violence against children be condoned? People seem to act as if such acts are absolutely immoral.

Children are deserving of fewer rights than adults. They're mental capabilties are lesser and naturally are subject to the instructions of their parents. Why should anyone consider someone who lacks the experience to rationalise fully an equal?

If anything the notion of 'rights' for children is a recent occurance. Didn't they send children up chimneys in Victorian Britain? Were houseowners wrong to do it? Even today you have child soldiers in the world. So it seems it's only the 'enlightened' West that feels children should have rights.

Philosoft

You appear to have one argument and two non-sequiturs. I'll let you decide which is which.

meritocrat

Children having fewer rights than adults is NO non-sequitur.

Heurismus

I'll accept this as a satirical OP and say very good, it merits consideration too. This is what ascribing rights to children enables, you know, the ability to think less like an animal and more like a civilised being. Competition is great, but so is our humanity.

Philosoft

But how does it follow that violence against children might not be so morally repugnant?

Dust

Because there are some people out there that would take it too far.

I’ve met a lot of children who have more mental capability to rationalize than some adults I’ve heard.

Norseman

WTF?!?!?!

So what, kill all the children because they're a bunch of worthless dumb-shits?


1. 40 year old people have gone on murderous rampages just for the hell of it.
2. Many children are more intelligent than adults, and a great majority of children are now more computer savvy than your average 50 year old.
3. You were a child, so shut up. Your rights are the rights of children.
4. Children are not as devloped yet, so it is entirely unfair to judge them until they are.
5. Without children, the world is dead.

Nostalgic Pushhead

Children eventually become adults.

You're a -Multiple Insults Deleted-.

dado

and where would you rather live...?

it's not a question of children having rights, it's a question of recognizing what you posted in the original post - that "their mental capabilities are lesser". responsibility should be comensurate with the ability to make choices, since they aren't in a position to make as many choices, they should be subject to fewer punishments.

apart from that, kids subject to violence are at much higher risk of growing into adults who are, shall we say, less than complete members of society. and that's bad for all of us. so be nice to kids not for their sakes, but for your own selfish desire to live in a better world.

dayton

You know what, people like this are the main reason that I have decided that I can no longer call myself an "Atheist". No, I haven't developed a belief in god(s), the supernatural, or organized religion.

I am honestly sick of the the amoral (not immoral), self-centered, anti-religious, anti-family, anti-children, and anti-humanity materialist philosophy. I find the idea that "children should not have rights" becuase "they haven't been here long enough" to be dehumanizing, demeaning, and just plain sick.

I ageee 100%.


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Slightly OT: Please don't call children "kids". Kids are young goats, children are human beings.


Dayton