jgibson000

Can you tell me on what you base your claim that Carrier is "respected", in academia and especially among professional philosophers and scientists? Can you tell me if he has ever been appealed to and/or cited anywhere in the professional philosophical or scientific literature which deals with the questions on atheism and naturalism and/or by notable atheist/philosophical naturalist writers like Kai Neilsen or Anthony Flew or Richard Dawkins? Is he really known to anyone outside of the groups like II?

JG

Johann_Kaspar

Johann_Kaspar

Oh! THAT illness! So you know the joke: life is an incurable illness sexually transmitted. But it is only a joke, isn't it? Well, I will not be nor feel compassionate for "that" illness. It is the human condition. I was thinking that you thought some people would need psychotherapy. Obviously faith is a perfect substitute for some other people trying to escape this human condition. Some people live in a world of illusions. fleeing reality.

That is why you don't have children

Not an Hebrew mentality. Remember also Gilgamesh...

Make me thinks, Mr. Kirby never departed from his xian mentality.
Once a xian, always a xian. There are exceptions of course, like Joseph Turmel. HE had to suffer from his deconversion.

No Robots

Those who have the disease called Jesus will never be cured ~Old Russian Proverb.

Ted Hoffman

Unless you are willing to demonstrate otherwise, being a UberCatholic is not considered to be "intelligent and well-considered". That is what is at issue here, not Peter's posts.
Misapplying metaphors cannot be a substitute for arguments.
Never has, never will. I believe we both have our own lives.

everettf

Turns out, I live about five blocks north of Peter Kirby.
Would have liked to meet him.

Layman

Why the past tense? He's not dead.

Kirby met with me while he was an atheist. I'm sure that he has not foreclosed meeting atheists now that he is a Christian.

Sauron

So a Catholic naturalist -- a person who does not believe in a supernatural resurrection or miracles -- is a Christian in your book, Layman?

David Vestal

I would think so. If he calls himself a Catholic anything, he's self-identifying as a christian, just as Spong self-identifies as christian despite denying the resurrection. Why argue the point?

Sauron

I'm perfectly OK with allowing anyone to self-identify as whatever they like.

I'm just surprised that Layman shares that view, especially with regards to Christians whose worldview rejects the supernatural elements of the New Testament.