Chris Weimer

What's with the "we"'s, judge? Since when do you have the necessary degrees in Aramaic? If I recall, even I had to correct your Aramaic. :Cheeky:

"We" will peer review you when you actually submit a paper first.

judge

One can't be expert in everything. I happen to think the peer review process is a good one.
We allow others to evaluate whether our ideas are any good or not.

One day these issues will be explored that way probably. It will be interesting to see the conclusions at that time.

Until such time it is natural for those holding "establishment" views to vigorously defend their views. Those who hold a prior commitment one way or the other would not be expected to be the most objective.

I did at one time think the Nt was penned in greek. I changed my mind. The beauty of the internet is that ideas that have not been explored can come to light. With sufficient interest these ideas can be scrutinised by peer review.

spin

We allow the evidence to be our judge, judge.

So you can't see how the issue can be decided, though you changed your mind against the Greek, obviously not based on on the conclusions of such exploration. Everything you've re-presented here has been shot down. Everything. This approach requires other people to do the work you admit you are incapable of -- on both sides of the argument.

Don't expect "establishment" views here. This is an infidels site and people tend to go with what can be demonstrated, not by others' dictates.

But you don't have the skills or resources to make a rationally based change of mind. This can change only be seen as caused by other factors than evidence.


spin

judge

No we look at some facts and ignore others and then we interpret the evidence. Two people can come to different conclusions by this approach.

That is why we need independent analysis. We need peer review.

I mean everyone imagines that are fair and unbiased. Everyone likes "their" view to be the right one. Who wants to be told the NT was penned in Aramaic after spending time and money studying ancient greek?

Who wants to be told "their" view is wrong?

That is why we need peer review.

spin

Who's ignored evidence, hmm, judge?

Evidence is evidence.

Who of your peers we be capable of judging, judge?

Irrelevant. Look at the evidence, when you can and then be able to judge.

If it is in fact wrong then honest people do.

All you are doing is admitting you have no way of judging for yourself. You have been happy to tout other people's views without such "peer review". You have no objective reason to peddle Aramaic priority. You cannot judge it's validity. And you cannot defend it. You should be getting the idea that it's time to do something about your position, be it just to prop it up more convincingly.


spin

judge

Well perhaps ignored was the wrong word, but no one can possibly weigh all the evidence properly. You may imagine that you have refuted this idea or that but at the end of the day that is just your opinion.

Whether your refutation is really any good is not for you to judge.



Some is weightier than other.

People who undertand Aramaic really need to weigh in on the issue. You have some, but even you admit your knowledge is pretty poor.


of course one can make a judgement we can also have ourselves on when we think our assessment is worth more than we should.

Quite but it is a common human failing to imagine that we are being honest and others aren't. That is why peer review is so good.

Of course I can judge for myself, but one must have a sober view of ones own judgement.

spin

That, you cannot say. A person who knows the subject can make a judgment and my subject is linguistics.

Then you don't mean peer review, do you? A peer is a person on your par, but you require someone who is above your par, so you probably intend "expert analysis".

This is where evidence is vital and the knowledge of how to use it.

Sorry, but I wouldn't trust a group of your peers to be even capable of understanding what the basics of the matter were.

The fact that you can judge for yourself underlies (or belies) your appeal to others who know better.


spin

judge

OK.....can you explain your experience with Aramaic?

What experience do you have with the Aramaic language that makes you competent to make a judgement?

spin

Why?


spin

judge

Why do you think?



You claim your expertise is with linguistics, you make various claims regarding Aramaic.
Do you have any experience with the language ?

If so what is your experience?