Drew J

Remember the teacher who talked about 9-11 saying it was an inside job and had some apparently fascist loving teacher report him and he got suspended? Yeah, he got his job back but isn't that mentality shocking? That not even fellow employees think it is mentally healthy to express distrust in the government? The propaganda machine certainly is working in case you are in doubt. Well it appears this teacher has had his house ransacked. He is a teacher by day and an activist by night.

Ohio High School Teacher Has House Ransacked And Attempts Made On His Life For Compiling Sensitive 9/11 Information
Tom Mustric, who was suspended from teaching for seven days for 9/11 statements contrary to the administration, turns out to be targeted by authorities for other 9/11 related information he has uncovered.

28 Jun 2006
By Greg Szymanski
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/28-June-2006.html

Last week during the final moments of a one hour interview on Greg Szymanski's Investigative Journal radio program, Mustric mentioned in passing how his phone had been tapped and his house had been broken into on numerous occasions, as he suspected Black Ops government agents also removed his computer and research files.

It turns out Mustric, a teacher by day and an activist by night, has been on the hit list of the fascist American regime for quite some time, as the "Clark Kent" type super-activist disguised as a teacher has had at least six assassination attempts made on his life.

And as it turns out, Mustric is the perfect example of "you can't tell a book by looking at the cover" as the soft spoken social studies teacher with the dark rimmed glasses has been meeting undercover with military whistleblowers about sensitive 9/11 data showing government complicity and collecting information about illegal weapons transfers to Bosnia by former President Clinton, including illegal arms sales to Israel and Iraq.

Starshark

Start threads on stupid 9/11 con theories, get moved to ~E~.

YHWH666

Do you really think reinforcing his crackpot ideas by censoring him is the best way to deal with it? I think the best solution to this nonsense is to allow it to be discussed, refuted or ignored --- however the posters in PD see fit. Exactly what rules did he break by posting this anyway? He wasn’t inflammatory, he didn’t insult anyone, he wasn’t spamming --- what’s the deal?

Blatant censorship of someone you disagree with IMO.

Starshark

Censorship, eh? Then how did you see the OP and post in here? You'll have to explain that one to me.

laughing dog

Consider the source of the link. The "proprietor" of the Artic Beacon is a regular on Rense.com - a virulent anti-semitic whack job site. Greg Symanski repeatedly refers to the Bush Crime Family in a May 18th article on the subject - hardly an objective source. Of course, given the poster of the OP, that was a given.

YHWH666

Moving the thread to a section of the board which recieves little to no traffic, and which cannot be viewed by non-registered users is censorship. It’s only semantically different to deleting it outright. How is deliberately taking measures to stop ideas you disagree with from being discussed anything other than censorship?

The fact that his views are self-evidently false does not change the fact that they are politically relevant and therefore belong in PD. If a creationist where to post nonsense about Noah’s flood causing the dinosaur fossils to be placed into the rock layers, it would stay in evolution/creationism, because that is the appropriate forum for that topic. The fact that you disagree with their views does not change the fact that that is where they belong. 9/11 conspiracy theories are at least as rational as creationism (slightly more plausible IMO) so why shouldn’t posts on them stay in the relevant forum?

I’m sure you are only adding to his sense of vindication about posting this stuff.

Starshark

We do have serious 9/11 conspiracy topics in PD. But we don't need a shitload of threads that use Alex Jones, or PrisonPlanet, or ArticBeacon spamming the forum.

Weltall

Oh please. ~E~ gets lots of traffic, the fact that non-members can't see it is trivial at best.Ad nauseum posts of conspiracy theories are not relevant, but it's up to the discretion of the mods to make that call. They made it, the thread's here where it won't get in the way of serious discussion.
Only if they actually debated the issue. If they posted a link to a website and refused to seriously discuss anything while posting page after page of nonsense and attacks on other users, those threads would be sent ~E~ too.
He's welcome to his viewpoint. II has no obligation to let him share it wherever and whenever he likes when it violates forum rules.
I'm sure he's used to his threads ending ~Elsewhere~ by now...

Spherical Time

~E~ gets more traffic than then Philosophy and Existence of God combined. It's not deleted, and unless it gets really bad, we're not going to stop people from talking about it. There's a reason ~E~ is out of sight, but it's to discourage lurkers, not to cease conversation.

We have had, on occasion, threads moved from E/C to ~E~.

As an ~E~ mod, I don't think this is in the wrong place.

Probably.

JaredM

As Spherical Time mentioned, ~E~ gets plenty of traffic.

In case you haven't figured it out by now, Drew will continue believing whatever he wants to believe regardless of any criticism, and regardless of where his posts are moved.

--Jared