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The Isaiah quote is famous, but it is just the start of the discussion. Personally the create darkness seems at least as interesting. Forms light - makes peace Creates darkness - creates evil Seems like a little Hebrew poem in the bible... cool. |
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If I say that "God is good", this is not true. I am good, but God is not good! In fact, I would rather say that I am better than God, for what is good can become better and what can become better can become the best! Now God is not good, and so he cannot become better. Since he cannot become better, he cannot become the best. These three are far from God: "good", "better", "best", for he is wholly transcendent. If I say again that "God is wise", then this too is not true. I am wiser than he is! Or if I say that "God exists", this is also not true. He is being beyond being: he is a nothingness beyond being. Therefore St. Augustine says: "The finest thing that we can say of God is to be silent concerning him from the wisdom of inner riches." Be silent therefore, and do not chatter about God, for by chattering about him, you tell lies and commit a sin. If you wish to be perfect and without sin, then do not prattle about God. Also you should not wish to understand anything about God, for God is beyond all understanding. A master says: If I had a God that I could understand, I would not regard him as God. If you understand anything about him, then he is not in it, and by understanding something of him, you fall into ignorance. Meister Eckhart (1260-1327) You're inside every kindness. When a sick person feels better, you are that and the onset of the disease too. You're sudden, terrible screaming. Some problems require that we go for help: when we knock on a stranger's door, you sent us. Nobody answers: it's you! When work feels necessary, you are the way workers move in rhythm, you are what is: the field, the players, the ball, those watching. Someone claims to have evidence that you do not exist. You're the one who brings the evidence in, and you are the evidence itself. You are inside the soul's great fear, every natural pleasure, every vicious cruelty. You are in every difference and irritation. Someone loves something; someone else hates the same. There you are. Whatever eyes see, what anyone wants or not: political power, injustice, material possessions, those are your script, the handwriting that we study. Body, soul, shadow. Whether reckless or careful, you are what we do. It's absurd to ask your pardon. You're inside repentance, and sin! The wonder of various jewels, agate, emerald. How we are during a day, then at night, you are those moods and qualities. The pure compassion we feel for each other. Every encampment has a tent where the leader is and also the wide truth of your majestic tent overall..... Jelaluddin Rumi (1207-73). |
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Darkness = sorrow caused by adversity. See the second reply, which has the best translation you'll ever read. |
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And Job was a good guy, and he really did a number on him too...:constern01: |
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But do you see how easy it is to get into situations like this "he manifested himself and allowed himself to be crucified"?... It really doesn't make any sense...:huh: |
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