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gurugeorge · 01-05-2005, 08:30 AM

Premjan,

Don't mean to de-rail this thread, but since you brought it up, if you're interested in the question of Jesus' historicity, there are lots of discussions on the Bibical Criticism forum here. The main thing I should point out is that the arguments for a mythical Jesus have come from Christians, Agnostics, etc., not just Atheists. You know I'm pretty sympathetic to mysticism generally: yet I too am a "Jesus Myther". It's a minority position at the moment, but it is slowly growing in respectability, even amongst NT scholars.

Two good scholarly authors in this line are Earl Doherty and Robert M. Price. Also good (though less scholarly) are Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy.

Clivedurdle · 01-09-2005, 08:25 AM

Alexander and the Bible

This is a relevant link - maybe xianity is the missing Greek Buddhist fusion...

There are interesting clues - I am the Tao

RED DAVE · 01-10-2005, 11:21 AM

From Vajradhara:

Quote:

Bodhidharma went east, but there was a Buddhist monk from Afghanistan who carried Buddhism to Tibet (forgot his name) who was probably in a better geographical position to go west rather than east.

Padmasambhava, the Lotus Born, is the Tantric Guru that brought Vajrayana Buddhism to Tibet in the inital spreading in 700 C.E.

A new, world-class museum of Himalayan art just opened literally around the corner from me, in the Chelsea section of New York. It's interesting to see how some of the Tibetan sculptures are obviously Greek influenced.

Rubin Museum of Art

Go see this museum when you're in New York. It's fabulous.

RED DAVE

premjan · 01-10-2005, 01:51 PM

The Gandhara school of art got started in Afghanistan during the era of the Indo-Greek kingdoms (e.g. Seleucus, Demetrius, Menander and so on). In fact I believe the capital of Sindh in the time of Alexander was Patala and the Lhasa palace of Potala may get its name from Patala (as many religious place names in Tibet were copies of Buddhist pigrimage spots in India).

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premjan Obsessed Contributor Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 61,538	Tibetan and Greek The Gandhara school of art got started in Afghanistan during the era of the Indo-Greek kingdoms (e.g. Seleucus, Demetrius, Menander and so on). In fact I believe the capital of Sindh in the time of Alexander was Patala and the Lhasa palace of Potala may get its name from Patala (as many religious place names in Tibet were copies of Buddhist pigrimage spots in India).

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gurugeorge Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,210	Premjan, Don't mean to de-rail this thread, but since you brought it up, if you're interested in the question of Jesus' historicity, there are lots of discussions on the Bibical Criticism forum here. The main thing I should point out is that the arguments for a mythical Jesus have come from Christians, Agnostics, etc., not just Atheists. You know I'm pretty sympathetic to mysticism generally: yet I too am a "Jesus Myther". It's a minority position at the moment, but it is slowly growing in respectability, even amongst NT scholars. Two good scholarly authors in this line are Earl Doherty and Robert M. Price. Also good (though less scholarly) are Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy.

01-09-2005, 08:25 AM	#52
Clivedurdle Contributor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London UK Posts: 16,024	Alexander and the Bible This is a relevant link - maybe xianity is the missing Greek Buddhist fusion... There are interesting clues - I am the Tao

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