dealo

With a huge amount of wars being because of religion or religious beliefs. And with the amount of casualitys caused by these wars. Can you draw the bow between religion and terrorism. :devil3: Or is that reaching to far. :angel:

Terrorism
As defined by the FBI, "the unlawful use of force against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population or any segment thereof, in the furtherance of political or social objectives". This definition includes three elements: (1) Terrorist activities are illegal and involve the use of force. (2) The actions are intended to intimidate or coerce. (3) The actions are committed in support of political or social objectives. (FEMA-SS)

The biggest question is for me, is defining "unlawful" when it comes to religion

RevDahlia

Let's see how this does in GRD.

dealo

so is this to hard to comment on

or is it to stupid to waste time on :down:

whichphilosophy

There is no grey area for crimes done in the name of religion as they come under terrorism.

However in seeking to eradicate the roots of terrorism we can't just intimate that this is all caused for instance by religion.

Were WWI and WWII the result of religion? Were the Red Guards religious or Stalins Camps the World Trade Centre bombings etc.

Did Adolph Hitler, Pol Pot conduct holy wars. No they conducted the opposite.

Sure, there are bitgots,fanatics power crazed individuals and other destructive elemensts who once entrenched in positions of power will use religion as an excuse or will use ...ism as an excuse. Religion is a convenient vehicle because it is there.

POINT 1 There is no problem in defining what is unlawful when it comes to religion. IF someone commits murder and says God told him, or it was for a religious cause they are still terrorists criminals etc. There has never been any confusion in law.

POINT 2 can be a difficult area, but not if the facts are straight. Individuals will have a differing impression of this, but if there is a good case it can be proven. Not only does this apply to religion but to selling,someone in a local team being pushed to attend matches he doesn't want to. Intimidation with threats of violence however are easier to prove. Cases can get confused when third parties are involves as they are just giving an interpretation true or false of the events.

POINT 3 Actions to promote social or political objectives should not be above the law and are not. However at times this will have to go to civil courts.

Bright Life

For examples of evangelist christian terrorists, click here.

BL

whichphilosophy

The article focus's on fund raising and Christian Missionaries, but I can't see anything on acts of terrorism being carried out by evangalist.

I don't see examples enforcement by kidnapping, murder, arson, arms dealing and purchasing harrasment of governments and individuals etc. I see this paragraph

In the time of Duarte Nunes, support of the Portuguese military allowed the Jesuits to have Hindus forcibly seized and their lips smeared with pieces of beef, 'polluting' them as Hindus and thus making Christianity their only option for salvation.[14] Such blatancy is not possible today.

It also mentions reported scandels etc that rarely reach Eu etc

It's basically an article critisizing Evangelism's quest to conquer the world, so what? Not everyone is obliged to join of course.

Rev. Timothy G. Muse

The apostle Paul openly confessed that BEFORE he embraced true religion, he his zeal led him to persecute and try to destroy the church. The more zealous he became, the more terror and destruction he brought. This is not only true of Paul, but of all men, because apart from the gospel, man is filled with self-centeredness, enmity, strife and every other form of evil.

On the other hand, Paul, AFTER experiencing regeneration and sanctification, was one who was willing to lay down his life for others. The more a person becomes gospel driven, the more loving we will become not only to God but to our fellow man. That's seen in the demand of the gospel, "to love God with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength, and to love our neighbor as ourself" True religion ... that which is found by grace through faith alone in Christ ... is the answer to the Terrorism, Hatred, and Bloodshed we find in our world.

Bright Life

ter·ror·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (tr-rzm) n. The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

I give this definition just so we're clear. You left off the last sentence of the quote you sited. It reads:

Later...

Proponents know this is unethical...


BL