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Old 09-03-2006, 09:01 PM   #31
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..which is clearly impossible for logical and rational people to do based upon that kind of evidence.
Yes only nuts can accept that type of thing, right?
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Yes only nuts can accept that type of thing, right?
Please keep this sort of comment out of the discussion.

There are lots of intelligent, mostly-rational people who, for whatever reason, join cults or adopt strange philosophies based on no evidence. Whether they are nuts or not has nothing to do with the validity of the idea or practice, which must stand or fall on its own.
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Yes, only nuts can accept that type of thing, right?
Do you have a rebuttal to my post or not? Childish comments do not serve any useful purpose, especially at this forum.
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Please keep this sort of comment out of the discussion.
I didn't bring it into the discussion. Just highlighting what was said. If one believes such things then one is not rational. If one is not rational then one could be labeled as "nuts". If this is not what Johnny Skeptic intended then I withdraw it and appologize. If it is not, then what did he intend?
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I didn't bring it into the discussion. Just highlighting what was said. If one believes such things then one is not rational. If one is not rational then one could be labeled as "nuts". If this is not what Johnny Skeptic intended then I withdraw it and apologize. If it is not, then what did he intend?
Forget what I said about rational people. Do you have any evidence that the God of the Bible has revealed his true intentions or not?
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... If one believes such things then one is not rational. If one is not rational then one could be labeled as "nuts". ...
The opposite of rational is not nuts.

For most people, the opposite of rational is, depending on the situation, either emotional, or irrational (generally for emotional or normal psychological reasons.)

Most of us are rational in parts of our life, and not especially rational in others. Evolution can explain this. Intelligent design cannot.

Now please stick to the subject matter.
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Forget what I said about rational people. Do you have any evidence that the God of the Bible has revealed his true intentions or not?
I don't have any evidence that God exists at all. Not any that would have any value around here anyways. However if you are granting His existance then one may be able to answer the question. I do not know what you mean by true intentions, do you mean what His plans are for humans? His reasoning in creating the universe? Or something else.
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Btw, this thread was about how the Bible isn't innerant. Why don't you actually look at that for once, buckshot? :banghead:
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Forget what I said about rational people. Do you have any evidence that the God of the Bible has revealed his true intentions or not?
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I don't have any evidence that God exists at all. Not any that would have any value around here anyways. However if you are granting His existance then one may be able to answer the question. I do not know what you mean by true intentions, do you mean what His plans are for humans? His reasoning in creating the universe? Or something else.
I am an agnostic. Here is my position: If a supernatural
being inspired the writing of the Bible, he might be good, or he might be evil. Good beings typically reveal their true intentions. Evil beings typically conceal their true intentions. If God is good, omnipotent, and omniscient, by definition he would easily be able to reveal his true intentions if that is what he wanted to do. If God is evil, omnipotent, and omniscient, by definition he would easily be able to conceal his true intentions if that is what he wanted to do. I am not aware of any evidence that A is any more likely than B. Are you?
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I am an agnostic. Here is my position: If a supernatural
being inspired the writing of the Bible, he might be good, or he might be evil. Good beings typically reveal their true intentions. Evil beings typically conceal their true intentions. If God is good, omnipotent, and omniscient, by definition he would easily be able to reveal his true intentions if that is what he wanted to do. If God is evil, omnipotent, and omniscient, by definition he would easily be able to conceal his true intentions if that is what he wanted to do. I am not aware of any evidence that A is any more likely than B. Are you?
How could we be sure? If an omnipotent and omniscient being existed how could we ever be sure as to what it was doing? We are far from both of those characteristics. Sure God could have been playing a trick on us and hiding His intentions. God has the power to do it. However if God has done any such thing I have no interest in worshiping such a god.
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