smithy

May I have an opinion to make it easier for a lay person like me
to get involved?
When you said "trouble passage" in the Bible, that is the whole Bible
from end to end and that is fitting for the Bible scholars. Even if we
reduce it to just NT or even to four Gospels only still a bit tedious,
as the basic target that we need to concentrate is the Boss only,
namely Jesus himself (AS). Even that I would not recommend the Book
of Revelation.
If the target is only and only what Jesus has said in the four Gospel
it will be easier for the participants to get involve and they will
concentrate to what He said and act upon it.

Islam is not a religion and none others are. We believe in God's word
and there are duties to implement on our shoulders. Once we do it
even a tiny part of it, is considered as way of life. Islam is "Deen", and
the meaning of Deen is "way of life".
The qur'an comfirming the existance of previous books, therefore
the Bible is correct but we must learn to filter what are useful for our
life, and most importantly the next.

As individual we have different ability to proccess the amount of
information store in us, the larger the datas the more power is needed
to do it. But when the data is minimal the processor will try to fill the
storage to it's maximum capacity by looking more information from
outside, OR creating more data from the available information.
The storage we possess are flexible, they expand almost indefinitely but
it take time.
A sudden burst of imported data will create information overload and
make the processor reluctant to work it.

Jesus (AS) was full of data quantity of the OT from childhood, and when
he took up his duty, the computer of his produced very tiny amount
of content compared with it's original source but with the same quality.
Therefore, reading what Jesus said only is equivalent of reading the
whole OT, one of the samething.

So concentrate with the small content of high quality first, and let
our computers work it out slowly.

May God bless you all and peace to you.

MadMez

Cool. So I can leave out the bit about hating my dad if I don't, as THE LORD knew my RAM was limited but I can leave it in if I do as HE will allow an upgrade to 1 Gig in order to focus on the bits I think of as quality.

Thanks for propping up my Infidelity, mate!

smithy

I am really if this cause you into unbelieve, I don't intent that way honestly.
BTW I was not talking about soul (or spirit), it was about human ability in sorting the information, God gave this to us not to other creatures, so we can understand God better.
In here I mentioned Jesus as an example, but He was God chosen ambassador unlike us.
Again sorry for discomfort, but it is a fact for a start. I promise I won't do
like this again, I assume it is too heavy.

Atheos

It's better interpreted love less, but it's not intellectually honest to translate it that way. Your interpretation is merely a rationalization.

Greek word "miseo" - to hate, detest. There is absolutely no evidence anywhere for its use as rationalized above.

-Atheos

Atheos

I have never heard a good explanation for why God required Abraham to offer Isaac in Genesis 22. There is simply no excuse for this behavior from God. It is sadistic and cruel, much like a bully in a schoolyard forcing another kid to do something just to humiliate him for fear of getting "beat up".

I've never seen any satisfactory explanation for God killing ALL the cattle of Egypt in the fifth plague (Exo 9:6), but then there were egyptian cattle killed in the seventh plague (Exo 9:20) and even more egyptian cattle killed in the 10th plague. Did all the egyptian cattle die in the 5th plague or not? Somebody's lying.

Just a couple that have always bothered me.

-Atheos

Mathetes

He, he. That's a funny one. Bible defenders can not only re-write history if they do not like it, but they are also entitled to re-write linguistics.

--New Magus55 English Dictionary--

misogynistic Someone that loves women less than Jesus.

misogamy Loving marriage less than Jesus.

misanthropic Someone that loves people less than Jesus.

Since all Christians are commanded to love Jesus above all else, it must follow that Christians are expected to be misogynistic, misogamic and misanthropic.

Atheos

Has anyone else noticed how Magus55 always disappears when folks start challenging one of his claims?

Magus, I appreciate your intelligence and sometimes you make some decent points. But this business of stirring the pot and then vanishing gets old after awhile. Do you have any evidence to support your "translation" of miseo? Would you at least admit that maybe we skeptics have a point here?

-Atheos