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Jesus BAPTIZED No-one in the Holy Spirit. From the very start, Jesus was a DISASTER. After John the Baptist died in the Gospels, Jesus did NOT fulfill the supposed prophecy of the FORE-RUNNER John the Baptist.


Mark 4 clearly tell us that Jesus did NOT want the Jesus to be converted.

Mark 4. Jesus in gMark did NOT WANT the Jews to be converted at ANY TIME

Jesus in gMark did NOT want the Jews to be forgiven of their Sins at ANY TIME

Jesus in gMark did NOT want the Jews or ANYONE to know he was the Messiah .

Jesus in gMark did NOT claim he came to ABOLISH the Laws of Jews for remission of Sins at ANY TIME

It is Documented.

gMark's Jesus, the EARLIEST gMark, had ZERO to do with SALVATION of the Jews.

gMark's Jesus story is about a character who was REJECTED by the Jews and his OWN disciples and later Crucified AFTER he FED thousands of hungry Jews, delivered many from Evil Spirits and Healed many of incurable diseases, even raising some from the dead.

The Salvation and post-resurrection story are LATER additions to gMark.

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The change of character of the disciples at Pentecost would appear to put that assertion in doubt.

He was addressing Jews, of course.

Then we can see supporting texts. Where, though?

Mark had a point to make. He started by talking about the good news of Jesus. When Jesus told people to keep quiet about him (because he wanted them to come to their own conclusions about him), they invariably went off and noisily made him known, as Mark reported. Yet, when he had finally proved everything he had claimed by rising from the dead, those who initially discovered it were at first too afraid to tell anyone. It may sound like a joke, but it isn't one.

So people got excited about things that mattered less, but, even though they had advanced notice, they were taken aback by the thought of a risen Jesus, with all the radical consequences for living their own lives that this implied.

Nothing has changed, it may be said. The contrast is not in the least a demise of Jesus and his purpose. Rather, it is in the reaction of frail humanity to the good news, that is so often regarded as bad news. This underlines the enormous, to say the least of it, influence of the cross of Christ on the world ever since.

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Only drowning men could see him ! ...(Leonard Cohen)

Jiri

JoeWallack

JW:
The issue is Source. The question is what was the source of the claim that Jesus was resurrected. "Mark's" answer is that "Mark's" Gospel is the answer, Revelation. This is the same source as the only known significant Christian author before "Mark", Paul. By forging 16:9-20 the answer is changed to historical witness.

By the Way, the commercial success of Christianity was never based on Christians willingness to be killed for the cross. It was always based on their willingness to kill for the cross (an irony that I think the author of "Mark" would really appreciate). Jesus' original supposed country never went schmad and every other country that Jesus supposedly visited deconverted in Mass when threatened.



Joseph

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Jesus baptized NO-ONE in the Holy Ghost in the Sinaiticus and Vaticanus gMark which was supposed to be the PRECISE reason for the coming of Jesus.

The Mighty One, according to John the Baptist, would NOT baptize in water but INCREDIBLY even in the FORGERIES or interpolation, the NON-historical Jesus, the resurrected Fiction Jesus, told the disciples to BAPTIZE.

Mark 16 In gMark, The Mighty One did NOT baptize with the Holy Ghost and CONTRARY to the prophecy of John turned around and asked his disciples to Baptize after both he Jesus and John were ALREADY dead.

You have ZERO source for your claims.

The very gMark will EXPOSE your error.

The people called Jesus John the Baptist, or One of the Prophets, Not Christ.

Mark 8 In gMark, Jesus was NOT known as a SAVIOR or a MESSIAH by the Jews.