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sophie · 11-15-2003, 12:06 PM

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beastmaster : is not a "nothing" -- it is most definitiely a something.

Gee, you know, I wuz doing some home schooling a few weeks back. I was pouring over The arrow of time co-written by a top British scientist. Unless my memory fails me, nothing was reputed to be at the root of our universe. Was this a fundie joke or something?

sophie · 11-15-2003, 12:13 PM

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Jobar : Clutch wins. But here lately,

the fundies got the last and biggest laugh, as the OP previeved, (am I physic or what !)

The joke"s on you. (ha ha ha ha)

beastmaster · 11-15-2003, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by sophie
Gee, you know, I wuz doing some home schooling a few weeks back. I was pouring over The arrow of time co-written by a top British scientist. Unless my memory fails me, nothing was reputed to be at the root of our universe. Was this a fundie joke or something?

I would have to read that particular book in order to respond. Maybe someone who has read it would care to explain.

Weltall · 11-15-2003, 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by sophie
the fundies got the last and biggest laugh, as the OP previeved, (am I physic or what !)

The joke"s on you. (ha ha ha ha)

No.

sophie · 11-15-2003, 12:40 PM

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Weltall : No.

Any proof to go with that?

Matrioshka_Brain · 11-15-2003, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by sophie
Gee, you know they only gave me nothing to work on. The rest of the pesky theories have hardly found their way out of the scientific minds.

Ask around, what is the generally accepted theory of creation in the world today, due to it being the most published most talked about theory?

No one will say super symmetric expansionist holey system theory. Most will reply : zee big bang. This is much ado about nothing. . .

The previously mentioned 4 theories are about what caused the big bang. And since they do not involve something from nothing, they are much ado about something, namely the universe not coming from nothing.

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"Gee, you know they only gave me nothing to work on. The rest of the pesky theories have hardly found their way out of the scientific minds."

They have left scientific minds. Otherwise I would not know about them. Their evidence is mostly mathmatical.

ShadowF0x · 11-15-2003, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by LadyShea
I'll get my broom!

AHAHAHAHH!!! Fellow Southpark Fan??

Honestly I had to read the story a couple of times to actually understand.... I was thinking "why would they run away" and what is that guy talking about "scientific god".......

Honestly I think the atheist and scientist would be the ones laughing because of the Fundies' gross lack of understanding when it came to the "Big Bang Theory".

ShadowF0x · 11-15-2003, 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by beastmaster
The Big Bang Theory does not posit that the universe came from nothing. For example, Hawking's view is that the Big Bang was preceded by a singularity -- a dimensionless "point" compression of all the energy of the universe. The singularity is not a "nothing" -- it is most definitiely a something.

I thought Hawkings came to the conclusion that there was more likely multiple singularities??? I remember him readying something about him where he had constantly tried to argue that the beginning of the universe did not stem from one singularity.

Of course I could be misinformed.

Weltall · 11-15-2003, 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by ShadowF0x
Honestly I think the atheist and scientist would be the ones laughing because of the Fundies' gross lack of understanding when it came to the "Big Bang Theory".

I agree. I wonder why Sophie thinks that the fundies had the last laugh, or why she thinks we would be amused.

The Naked Mage · 11-16-2003, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by Xyzzy
He ripped off the cloth and underneath was a glass case with all sorts of tubes extruding with what seemed to be nothing within the glass enclosure. �That�, exclaimed the scientist, �what exactly is it�. �It is a miniature collider in which I have a compressed a small super string universe almost at plank scale�, shrugged the wild haired man. Then he laughed. Then the crowd roared, rocking back and forth in classic fundie style, holding their stomachs and clapping fervently, in seeming endless laughter. 'He told us he was going to make science's God.. but it's just an empty glass HA HA HA HA!!!!'. The wild haired man smiled.

�You wouldn�t be a scientist by any chance�, the brown eyed man asked politely, and winked. 'These rubes gave me all the money and resources I needed to build this little thing, and they have no idea what it's for' he said. Of course they wouldn't believe me even when I told them, and since they were all home schooled and never got a complete science education, they had no idea what I was really working on.'

�You crazy fools!', the scientists yelled, and he and his his atheist friend ran full speed out the crowd, as the gathering parted for them. The atheist and the scientist covered their ears to the mocking �ha ha ha ha� coming from the crowd of fundies, followed microseconds later by a rapid white hot expansion of fresh new spacetime.

C'mon, people! This is GOLDEN! :notworthy

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