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Old 10-10-2009, 09:03 PM   #21
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What are you really saying? Please review your statement. Almost does not ever count.
Jesus would have been given a full biography by Josephus if he had extensive political relations. This is shown by the example of John the Baptist who would have been passed over if it wasn't for the incidental comment about the people blaming the loss over his death.


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Are you implying that since Josephus gave no details about the brother of James, then the historicity of Jesus called Christ is confirmed?

You almost made sense.
No. I said it doesn't bring any evidence for the mythicist case. That doesn't mean it brings weight for historicity.



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Your opinion, and doesn't matter in any case.
Please tell me why did you give me your opinion? It almost mattered.
It's your opinion that everything in Josephus relating to Jesus is a forgery, and it doesn't matter how much Josephus mentions about Jesus/James because of Josephus' politically inclined themes.
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Old 10-10-2009, 09:51 PM   #22
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What are you really saying? Please review your statement. Almost does not ever count.
Jesus would have been given a full biography by Josephus if he had extensive political relations. This is shown by the example of John the Baptist who would have been passed over if it wasn't for the incidental comment about the people blaming the loss over his death.
This is just total speculation. Josephus wrote about Jesus the son of Ananus who was beaten to a pulp and called a mad-man just for saying Woe unto Jerusalem.

What political relations did Josephus need to write that Jesus of the NT WAS CRUCIFIED for blasphemy.

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Are you implying that since Josephus gave no details about the brother of James, then the historicity of Jesus called Christ is confirmed?

You almost made sense


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No. I said it doesn't bring any evidence for the mythicist case. That doesn't mean it brings weight for historicity.
Lack of historical information is the foundation of the mythical case. Lack of historical information is like a SLEDGE-HAMMER to the HJ case.



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It's your opinion that everything in Josephus relating to Jesus is a forgery, and it doesn't matter how much Josephus mentions about Jesus/James because of Josephus' politically inclined themes.
Please tell how much times Josephus mentioned James and the brother called Jesus?

One time? Tell me more!

The Church backtracked and claimed James had no brother called Jesus 1500 years ago.
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