WVIncagold

I believe he is referring to the zombies walking through the streets of the city. I think that would have been recorded everywhere and by everyone who saw and had interaction with the said zombies. a pretty remarkable event. Did the saints crave brains?

sotto voce

The raising of past saints was not of structural importance to the narrative. The record of it gave added impetus to the significance of the death of Jesus, this event being the cause of resurrection of saints; but the resurrection of Jesus himself was the real confirmation that 'the gates of hell', i.e. condemnation for sins, had been overcome. Of greater significance is the thrice-recorded tearing of the curtain of the Temple, which did indicate that victory, to the thoughtful. Though not, evidently, to the disciples.

Sarpedon

We are not talking about the importance to the narrative. We are talking about an event that allegedly happened.

Things just don't go away if they are unimportant to someone's narrative, unless the whole thing is FICTION.

Is that what you are saying? The Gospels are fiction?

rlogan

My God. PZ Meyers calls a lot of what you do the "Courtier's Response", which is to invalidate everyone else with the pretense you are the most erudite, well-read scholar and uniqueluy qualified to speak. It makes you God's Prophet, equivalent to being God himself.

That's why his highness is the sole repository for the definition of Christians, and it does not even have to be stated positively because his eminence speaks in riddles, questions, and silly paradoxes instead.

This one here -hey, by all means show us the translations you insinuate you have studied and what the dates actually are on this up-to-date scholarship of yours, and what exaggerations vs. "real stories" are in question. Talk about brash.

PhilosopherJay

Hi WVIcagold,

The really important question for those of us living in the 21st Century is if they were fast zombies or slow zombies?
We might also wonder what happened to them. Did they just go back to their graves after a night of wild partying, or did they rejoin their families? What if the spouse had remarried? Who had rights then?

Is there anything in Jewish law about remarriage to a zombie? Don't some early manuscripts really translate as:

Mark 10:11-12 [Jesus] answered, “Anyone who divorces his zombie and marries another woman commits adultery against her. And if she divorces her zombie and marries another man, she commits adultery.”


Warmly,

Jay Raskin

PhilosopherJay

Hi Sotto Voce,

Blaise Pascal was no doubt brilliant, but we should remember that he came from a religious family in a religious time and culture. Furthermore, he was in a bad traffic accident where his horse and carriage completely turned over. He prayed to God to save him. When he was saved, he devoted himself to God and the Catholic Church. It was not his intelligence but his timidity in the face of death that made him a believer.

I have never seen the quote by Goethe before. I have been unable to find it. Could you cite it? Since he often makes fun of believers and the Bible in his writings, I'm surprised by it. Of cause, he is famous for having his beloved Faust character, certainly meant to be Goethe himself, rewrite the Bible:

'Tis written: "In the beginning was the Word!"
Here now I'm balked! Who'll put me in accord?
It is impossible, the Word so high to prize,
I must translate it otherwise
If I am rightly by the Spirit taught.
'Tis written: In the beginning was the Thought!
Consider well that line, the first you see,
That your pen may not write too hastily!
Is it then Thought that works, creative, hour by hour?
Thus should it stand: In the beginning was the Power!
Yet even while I write this word, I falter,
For something warns me, this too I shall alter.
The Spirit's helping me! I see now what I need
And write assured: In the beginning was the Deed!

Warmly,

Jay Raskin

rlogan

I never expected this level of entertainment.

Toto

Never a dull moment here.

I tried to find that quote - it only exists on Christian sites on the internet. But sometimes it seems to be attributed to James Carlyle and an equally dubious quote is attributed to Goethe.

Check out THE FUNDAMENTALS: A TESTIMONY TO THE TRUTH BY. R.A. TORREY

No Robots

It is found, not quite as presented above, in his memoirs, p. 410. Relevant snippet.

sotto voce

He was a heretic, as far as the Vatican was concerned. Very independently minded.

No timidity about that judgement, anyway.

Try Michael Faraday? Charles Wesley? Charles Dickens? Robert Boyle? Dietrich Bonhoeffer? Søren Kierkegaard? Benjamin Disraeli? John Wyclif? AN Whitehead? TS Eliot? CS Lewis? Thomas Wolsey? Paul of Tarsus? William of Occam? JS Mill? FF Bruce? John Stott? Max Planck? James Irwin? Jimmy Carter? Isaac Newton? Isaac Watts? James Clerk Maxwell?