DaMan121

Like Elvis?

FatherMithras

I think Half-life needs to go find a list of logical fallacies and then read it so he stops making invalid arguments.

guy_683930

fundies generally lose all of their arguments when that happens though.

That was one of the turning points for me in my disbelief. When I realized that the vast majority of arguments Christian apologists use are fallacious.

hatsoff

That's really not true. What Half Life seems to be doing is attempting to validate Christianity through logical terms, which is impossible. Apologists merely defend their beliefs.

Half-Life

The Apostles were proclaiming Jesus' resurrection from the empty tomb just WEEKS after it happened. It really is absurd to think that they would get away with this without someone asking, "Where is this tomb?" You CANNOT, I repeat CANNOT found a religion with thousands of churches and historical documents from the first century that argue for Jesus without something actually happening. Where are the churchs for Poseidon and Osiris now?

Julian

You don't know that!!! How many times do you have to be told?
When will you study and learn instead of just repeating the same tired old nonsense over and over again? It is getting tiresome.

James Brown

The Apostles were proclaiming Jesus' resurrection from the empty tomb just WEEKS after it happened.

Yes...according to the documents that were written decades after the supposed event, which we read in the copies made hundreds of years after the originals were written.

It really is absurd to think that they would get away with this without someone asking, "Where is this tomb?"

What is absurd is the assumption that no one ever did. And how would skeptics be answered? Easy, by pointing to a hole in the ground. Why, if that didn't convince skeptics, nothing would.

You CANNOT, I repeat CANNOT found a religion with thousands of churches and historical documents from the first century that argue for Jesus without something actually happening.

Something did happen . . . Paul preached his interpretation of the Jewish scriptures and argued that the Son of God was crucified by demonic forces in the spiritual realms before the foundation of the world, and the faithful will be rewarded after death for believing this. More than enough to start a new sect of an established religion.

Where are the churchs for Poseidon and Osiris now?

If memory serves, they were destroyed by Christians once they rose to political power.

hatsoff

Were they? The only evidence to that effect came at least 35 (and probably more like 45) years after its alleged occurence. Considering the far-fetchedness of the claim, it is incredibly unlikely that the resurrection occurred at all, or that the Apostles were preaching about it weeks later.

Even if these men really did tell their story only weeks later, it still doesn't mean anyone would successfully uncover their lie, or if they did that they could convince others of the truth.

Nobody founded a new religion. Paul and perhaps a few others created a new sect in an old religion.

Irrelevant.

Amaleq13

It is in Acts that we are told they started preaching the gospel over a month after the crucifixion (40 days?) but there is nothing to suggest that their gospel differed significantly from Paul's and he offers no empty tomb to support his claims. Why should we assume something different for the apostles?

Zeichman

Are there any speeches in Acts (not that I'm convinced of its accuracy) that even mention the empty tomb?