aChristian

Go read the websites that I gave you first and talk to them.

aChristian

I wasn't name calling. Read my previous response.

aChristian

Are you aware of anyone's sin?

aChristian

Yeah, I think so. God could still be intervening in the persons life to prevent them from going onto the plane, but he would be using natural events (as opposed to supernatural) to accomplish his will. God is pretty slick.

Per Ahlberg

You know, aChristian, you really should come over to E/C and discuss the evidence for (or rather, against) the Flood. Really. This for several reasons:

Firstly, beacuse it is one of the instances where scientific evidence has very direct bearing on the veracity of the Bible. (A global flood clearly should show up in the geological record if it really happened.)

Secondly, because the evidence demonstrates conclusively that it did not happen, and that the Bible is therefore inaccurate in this regard.

Thirdly, because a number of the regular posters in E/C - myself included - have professional expertise in this area and can explain the evidence in detail.

Fourthly, because this evidence is by and large easily accessible, first-hand, to the interested layperson. You don't need fancy equipment: all you require is a geological map of your local area and some form of transport.

Fifthly, because the subject is inappropriate here and E/C is where it belongs.

Amaleq13, BC&H moderator

So what do you think? Will you pay us a visit?

Cheers, Per

Jack the Bodiless

aChristian:

You STILL haven't posted on the E/C thread created for you.

Furthermore, thanks to the IIDB search facility, I can see that you have NEVER posted in the E/C forum, except on ONE thread, Phyllis Schlafly takes on evolution, in which you had a total of 13 posts that said nothing of substance: pretty much the same empty assertions you've made here.

No amount of wishful thinking will make ICR's nonsense correct.
...Except that there are.
You don't seem to be in a position to make such judgements. It seems rather obvious that you merely prefer to believe that there are no intellectual arguments against Christianity: because thinking this makes you happier.

(...which does again raise the question of why you're here?)

By the way, the thread Inerrantists: please demonstrate that ANY part of the Bible is "divinely inspired" is now sinking into oblivion because no Christian could provide any actual evidence for this.

Wayne Delia

But isn't "talking to websites" a sign of schizophrenia?

WMD

rodluvan

(note: I've taken the liberty of putting parts of the text in bold although it wasn't in the original post)

What it all boils down to is that which is stated above. How can any one argue logically against a conviction such as that? Ultimately every claim from aChristian is part scientific (has a scientific retorique at least) up to the point where he has his backa against the inerrant Bible and the unquestionable truth of the eye-witnesses and the fact [sic] that God can't be wrong or lie.

The omnipotent God that can create the universe 6000 bc (or whatever), but make it look like it was older (for instance by tampering with carbon dating, fossils, expansion of the universe, evolution etc) can not be questioned under these circumstanses. Every piece of scientifically verified evidence or well established theory that contradict said conviction is either biased or, if infact correct even with the fundy's eyes, deliberatly placed there by the Devil to delude humans because God can't be wrong!

So why even bother? It's really like knocking the head agains a brick wall.

Faith is double-edged. On the one hand people of religios faith (fundies) are the most gullible, naïv humans one can ever think of. Taking a Book and believing every word of it, stating the Book in itself to be the proof. On the other hand, they do not believe any scientific study, theory or law if they can not touch it, experiance it first hand or have their local priest sanctioning it and even then, it could be the work of the Devil.

On a philosophical note, what good is a world where everything is thought to be one way, but appears to be in a totally different way? It's like living on a stage with the only world you see and can interact with are the decors and the props put there by an almighty director. Is a worldview that stretches beyond the presumed scenery viable in any practical maner when that unfailingly causes any absolutes and all knowledge to be rendered worthless? I would define such faith as pure evil if I instead choose to believe in reason and in what I see. And infact, I do.

John A. Broussard

You mean you don't know the name of that book recording this extraordinary event?

That's very disappointing.

aChristian

I have told you several times already that I will give you more information after you first take the time and effort to go to the websites of the organizations I named, contact them for information on some of the miracles mentioned, and then get back to me. You really don't appear interested in truth at this point.