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Old 04-28-2006, 12:53 PM   #81
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Exactly, LH has pushed for this to be finished since he came back. The investigation was NEVER finished since he had stepped down.





I wouldn't say that greg didn't come back cause of not hooking up with AA.
LH is the one who came to ME and RNHP asking that we help since we had seen the happenings firsthand.
And they are NOT supposed accusations. Try to keep that in mind.
Since Lighthearted isn't a member here and posting, and instead a 3rd party (you) are posting it, its supposed in my honest opinion.
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Since Lighthearted isn't a member here and posting, and instead a 3rd party (you) are posting it, its supposed in my honest opinion.
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I don't really want to up the drama quotient today, but LightHearted's custom CF title is now "Just say NO to internet predators".
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I don't really want to up the drama quotient today, but LightHearted's custom CF title is now "Just say NO to internet predators".
you have to admire someone's willingness to take a stand
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Old 04-28-2006, 07:52 PM   #85
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Actually, what Blaster has done makes sense, and I've been in similar predicaments: Tell as much of what you know as possible, when the purpose is to further a cleansing and healing, while honoring the confidences of those who have placed their trust in you to do so. It may sound like being gossipy under the circumstances, but I honor the ethics underlying what he's trying to do.
Yeah. That is definitely a possibility I have in mind. Still, I feel uneasy with the out in the open/can't divulge dichotomy.

And I'm banned from CF, so I can't PM LH.
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I think part of the problem is that Blaster is giving some details while omitting the actual story.

"Any women who feel that they have been harrassed by Bradford should pm Erwin with any relevant information" would have 1) been clear and 2) sufficed.

Instead we got hints about the identities of various women, weird comments about naked pictures, and allegations of allegations of stalking which leads ME to try to create a scenario in my mind which connects all the dots--a scenario which may have no relation to reality. This is the sort of hint-dropping that LEADS to gossip as others who have their interest piqued try to connect the dots amongst themselves; this is how rumors get started.

All of it complicated by Blaster's somewhat unclear posting style. In comprehensibility, I'd put him in the Daemana/Latreia Centurion/Christain Centurion level, which means it takes a lot of effort to figure out what he's trying to say.
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What amazes me in the return of Bradford to staff is the lack of anticipation of this scenario by Erwin and Angel.

Not sure what the process was in the staff fora for evaluating Bradford's return request, but putting him immediately on a team with key forum assignments really strikes me as highly irregular -- especially that such fast track approach is given to one who is the CF Senator's fiancee and when his prior departure was quite irregular at best.

Bradford's comments about Erwin here after his leaving staff last Fall; then his self banning here in December; then his return here a few months later to cordial posting here; then his second farewell speech here and mea culpa after his position on staff comes under fire ... all stikes me as very strange.

LightHearted's concerns and alarm over such a return clearly should have been anticipated in light of the past issues. That should have itself lead to a cautious approach rather than the fast track.

All this is certainly befuddling.
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What amazes me in the return of Bradford to staff is the lack of anticipation of this scenario by Erwin and Angel.

Not sure what the process was in the staff fora for evaluating Bradford's return request, but putting him immediately on a team with key forum assignments really strikes me as highly irregular -- especially that such fast track approach is given to one who is the CF Senator's fiancee and when his prior departure was quite irregular at best.

Bradford's comments about Erwin here after his leaving staff last Fall; then his self banning here in December; then his return here a few months later to cordial posting here; then his second farewell speech here and mea culpa after his position on staff comes under fire ... all stikes me as very strange.

LightHearted's concerns and alarm over such a return clearly should have been anticipated in light of the past issues. That should have itself lead to a cautious approach rather than the fast track.

All this is certainly befuddling.
I agree.

And when Buzz and I agree that something is messed up, you know it's messed up.
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Has anybody here ever read Franz Kafka's novel, The Castle?
I'd think The Trial would make more sense, given the accusations with no evidence.

Blaster, do you think I need to tell Erwin about Bradford's conduct during his condemnation of my signature, that led to my only warnings on CF?
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What amazes me in the return of Bradford to staff is the lack of anticipation of this scenario by Erwin and Angel.

Not sure what the process was in the staff fora for evaluating Bradford's return request, but putting him immediately on a team with key forum assignments really strikes me as highly irregular -- especially that such fast track approach is given to one who is the CF Senator's fiancee and when his prior departure was quite irregular at best.

Bradford's comments about Erwin here after his leaving staff last Fall; then his self banning here in December; then his return here a few months later to cordial posting here; then his second farewell speech here and mea culpa after his position on staff comes under fire ... all stikes me as very strange.

LightHearted's concerns and alarm over such a return clearly should have been anticipated in light of the past issues. That should have itself lead to a cautious approach rather than the fast track.

All this is certainly befuddling.
Well, I find it disconcerting that Bradford went from banned for bad behavior to a mod with assigned forums in practically one day. I have it on good authority (Erwin) that the staff didn't know or vote in any way about the reassignment.

My question is, why does Bradford not voluntarily step down from staff in order to alleviate the stress to the staff, the forum, and most certainly his fiancee? Is what he does in moderating soooo above the norm that it is worth it to carry a potiential danger? For this reason, I think we should add PMs to Erwin with content about poor moderation as well as scary or dangerous behavior.

And lanakila, I agree that it does bear some similarity to Greg. Greg, though, got an undeniable raw deal. He was convicted without the ability to defend himself. And it was two mods verses him, but no one else. He was banned and had no idea. In this case, however, Brad watched as the accusations from all sorts of people rained down and only got out when it got too hot. He still was banned for a reason. Then he turned against CF like everybody else, but all the while he was worming his way in through the heart of a lonely woman. Greg, while banned, was still active on CF through socks and just reading but not posting. He was happy to participate quietly at CF, proving himself to not be a danger and giving time to get the truth and the lies straightened out. He never ever asked to be back on staff. Obviously Bradford ain't interested in being anything other than a staff member on the fast track with all the "important" forums. And the fact that AA would willingly make a poor choice for CF seemingly unilaterally makes me want to call for her dismissal as well.

Me, I like Greg and I really think he handled his accusations with class and patience and proved himself sevenfold. He admitted to what he did that was wrong, not because he was forced to, but because he wanted to do the right thing. All I have seen from Brad are apologies that seem hollow and forced, with the blame being put on the victims who "misunderstood" him. And this after he was told to do so.
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