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RBH · 01-02-2006, 08:53 PM

The Collapse of Intelligent-Design
... Will the next MONKEY TRIAL be in OHIO?

A talk by Ken Miller, Professor of Biology, Brown University

7 pm Tuesday, January 3, 2006
Strosacker Auditorium, Case Western Reserve University Campus, Cleveland

Kenneth R. Miller, PhD, was the star science witness in the recent Dover "Panda Trial" in Pennsylvania where Judge John E Jones found "intelligent design" to be a religious view, not science. He is the author of a bestselling high school biology textbook that was subject to the Cobb County, GA disclaimer sticker that warned students that evolution was "a theory, not a fact." The stickers were removed by court order in 2005. Miller is also author of the bestseller Finding Darwin's God.

Questions from the audience will be entertained and the event will be webcast (www.case.edu)

Free and open to the public. When I have more detailed info on the webcast I'll post it here.

CORRECTED UPDATE URLS for Webcast:
Real Players
Windows Media Player

Aristophanes · 01-02-2006, 11:04 PM

this is a little off topic; but if you rearange the initials, you get "Men Killer"...

*chukles*

abaddon · 01-03-2006, 10:33 AM

Pardon me if I'm slacking on the latest news ... but is Mr. Dembski not going to show up for the debate after all? I note that the link at Case says "Miller's intended opponent may not be able to make it."

I never expected he would ...

Has Dembski made up his excuses yet for his inability to "put up"?

JonF · 01-03-2006, 01:14 PM

Casey Luskin, speaking for the DI, at The “Put Up or Shut Up�? Debate:

Quote:

One side does not simply announce a place, and a time a few weeks’ hence, and demand that the opponent show up. Otherwise it looks like a publicity stunt.

Wonder if he told that to the KBOE?

Secular Pinoy · 01-04-2006, 12:42 AM

I caught the webcast midway into Miller's presentation. Great stuff, about how Miller pointed out the weaknesses of the ID arguments. I wish I had seen it all. Does anyone know if there's a downloadable version of the lecture?

RBH · 01-04-2006, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Secular Pinoy

Does anyone know if there's a downloadable version of the lecture?

I'm checking into that. I'll post when I find out.

I was at the lecture. That man is damned good.

RBH

Killer Mike · 01-04-2006, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBH

I'm checking into that. I'll post when I find out.

I was at the lecture. That man is damned good.

RBH

Damn I missed it! I wish I had known Ken Miller was speaking last night, as I would have been there. And to think I spent last night watching a movie and eating a Pappa Johns pizza!! :banghead:

Pierre Bezukhov · 01-04-2006, 12:05 PM

I forgot about it and only caught the last two minutes of the presentation and the Q&A section. I would really like to see the presentation in its entirety.

RBH · 01-04-2006, 01:13 PM

I've got a guy at Case trying to track it down now. As soon as I know something I'll post it here and on Panda's Thumb.

RBH

Djugashvillain · 01-04-2006, 02:35 PM

Thanks, RBH. I'm really eager to watch this: Miller really earned his stripes in the Dover trial, and I'd like to see him in action once again.

01-02-2006, 08:53 PM	#1
RBH Contributor Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 15,407	Ken Miller in Cleveland: URLs for Webcast Added The Collapse of Intelligent-Design ... Will the next MONKEY TRIAL be in OHIO? A talk by Ken Miller, Professor of Biology, Brown University 7 pm Tuesday, January 3, 2006 Strosacker Auditorium, Case Western Reserve University Campus, Cleveland Kenneth R. Miller, PhD, was the star science witness in the recent Dover "Panda Trial" in Pennsylvania where Judge John E Jones found "intelligent design" to be a religious view, not science. He is the author of a bestselling high school biology textbook that was subject to the Cobb County, GA disclaimer sticker that warned students that evolution was "a theory, not a fact." The stickers were removed by court order in 2005. Miller is also author of the bestseller Finding Darwin's God. Questions from the audience will be entertained and the event will be webcast (www.case.edu) Free and open to the public. When I have more detailed info on the webcast I'll post it here. CORRECTED UPDATE URLS for Webcast: Real Players Windows Media Player

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01-02-2006, 11:04 PM	#2
Aristophanes Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 4,729	this is a little off topic; but if you rearange the initials, you get "Men Killer"... chukles

01-03-2006, 10:33 AM	#3
abaddon Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: earth Posts: 3,946	Pardon me if I'm slacking on the latest news ... but is Mr. Dembski not going to show up for the debate after all? I note that the link at Case says "Miller's intended opponent may not be able to make it." I never expected he would ... Has Dembski made up his excuses yet for his inability to "put up"?

01-04-2006, 12:42 AM	#5
Secular Pinoy Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Quezon City, Philippines Posts: 1,994	I caught the webcast midway into Miller's presentation. Great stuff, about how Miller pointed out the weaknesses of the ID arguments. I wish I had seen it all. Does anyone know if there's a downloadable version of the lecture?

01-04-2006, 12:05 PM	#8
Pierre Bezukhov Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 882	I forgot about it and only caught the last two minutes of the presentation and the Q&A section. I would really like to see the presentation in its entirety.

01-04-2006, 01:13 PM	#9
RBH Contributor Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 15,407	I've got a guy at Case trying to track it down now. As soon as I know something I'll post it here and on Panda's Thumb. RBH

01-04-2006, 02:35 PM	#10
Djugashvillain Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 1,281	Thanks, RBH. I'm really eager to watch this: Miller really earned his stripes in the Dover trial, and I'd like to see him in action once again.

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