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Old 12-21-2009, 03:01 PM   #81
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Please do not hijack this thread to discuss Eusebius
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Aside from the issue of whose scholarship is best regarding the Dead Sea Scrolls, some of Raphael's Golb's tactics are wrong, and probably illegal.
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There are always three sides to any coin.
I am willing to withhold my final opinions until after the court case.

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Stealing someone's identity in order to promote scholarship is detestible.
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Have you heard of Eusebius Johnny?
Indeed, and I agree with many of your arguments about him.
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i've listed all of the motions filed in the case at http://www.who-is-charles-gadda.com#legal_filings


and a few questions for fitter:

1) please describe, as you understand it, the difference between anti-semitisim and intellectual anti-semitism?

2) why did you link to my bible and interpretation article?

3) why have you suddenly joined this forum and taken such an interest in the defense of raphael golb?

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And I'll ask flat out: You are Raphael's brother Joel, aren't you.

If you are doing this at your brother's instigation and behest, then you are involved, I believe, in by proxy communication.
Pardon my confusion, Jeffrey, but who exactly are you asking? XKV8R??


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Do you think he is not entitled to a defence or interest?
sure, raphael golb is entitled to his defense. my question to fitter is why he has taken an interest in this case. simple question.

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Who are "the hegemony of stubborn elites who previously monopolized the channels of publication. "? [quoting Norman Golb]

How are you related to this hegemony Doc?
i'm far too young to have blocked any publications.


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What's this "himself (or herself)" ambivalence doing in the intro?
i try to be fair and egalitarian. until we knew for sure, the individual could have been male or female.
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:30 PM   #85
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hey, i just thought of something funny.

remember that one time where there was a guy on here named 'charles gadda' and he would come on here and just rip into folks who disagreed with norman golb? remember that? and he would rarely accuse scholars outright for fear of being sued, but would use insinuations and hypothetical questions that had no basis in reality, but were just designed to harm the reputations of the scholars he didn't like?

and remember how he crossed the line and just flat out impersonated larry schiffman??

and remember how 'charles gadda' turned out to be norman golb's son, raphael golb?

and remember how some of us knew it was raphael, and some others on here were trying to defend 'charles gadda'?

and remember how court documents show that norman would call raphael and his brother joel and discuss outlines and talking points with them to use on discussion boards? remember how the ny da's office has emails that show they were all in communication?

remember all that? i just got a chuckle out of that. boy, what memories. lol.
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And I'll ask flat out: You are Raphael's brother Joel, aren't you.

If you are doing this at your brother's instigation and behest, then you are involved, I believe, in by proxy communication.
Pardon my confusion, Jeffrey, but who exactly are you asking? XKV8R??


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I am willing to withhold my final opinions until after the court case.
Personally I would not withhold a final opinion about such a matter. What these people are doing is an outrage. They seem to be saying that identity theft is the same as plagiarism. Or that plagiarism is the same as identity theft. This is unacceptable.

P.s. I do not study all the threads carefully and I do not come on here every day, but my partner told me that there are two people on here who posted offensive comments and one of them accused me of being Raphael Golb's brother, which in my view is almost the worst insult anyone could make. I am not sure who they are (one of them has a funny name with letters and numbers), but I have put them on my "ignore" list and I hope no one will pay attention to any nasty things anyone is saying about me. I find this topic interesting but I don't like to fight with anyone. What we need is peace, not accusations of "intellectual anti-semitism." I mean, what is the difference between "intellectual" antisemitism and regular antisemitism? It seems to me that if you're antisemite, you're an antisemite. If you're orthodox, you're orthodox. If you're an identity theft, you're an identity theft.
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P.s. I do not study all the threads carefully and I do not come on here every day, but my partner told me that there are two people on here who posted offensive comments and one of them accused me of being Raphael Golb's brother, which in my view is almost the worst insult anyone could make. I am not sure who they are (one of them has a funny name with letters and numbers), but I have put them on my "ignore" list and I hope no one will pay attention to any nasty things anyone is saying about me.
fitter's comments are downright comical. 'fitter' goes out of his way to say that a 'partner' pointed him to something written by someone with 'a funny name with letters and numbers' in it. lol. he never directly responds to me. why?

fitter has been posting here, on this string, and it's easy enough for him to read the string for himself. but he won't concede he's reading it and writing in response. why?

why is it always, 'a friend told me' or 'i don't come here much but...' or, 'i've been away and can only stay for a sec...' etc. fitter is typing in the very string about which he's claiming ignorance. why is that?

why will fitter make all kinds of assertions, but when asked a direct question by me, he avoids. it's a very good question. i wish i had an answer. ;-)

(p.s. ed says hi.)
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Pardon my confusion, Jeffrey, but who exactly are you asking? XKV8R??
Fitter.
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If Golb had sent all of his emails complaining about Dr. Schiffman's possible plagiarism and other things about the Dead sea scrolls to many people using his real name, would that have been considered harassment or just part of scholarly debate about the Dead Sea scrolls and possible academic wrongdoing? If it would not be harassment using his real name, then how could scholarly discussions by email or on internet sites be harassment?

I am not talking about the emails impersonating Dr. Schiffman, but the other ones. In the few emails and blog articles Golb allegedly wrote that I read, he only discussed scholarly issues. If he had said other bad things about Dr. Schiffman that had nothing to do with scholarly issues, I could see how that could be harassment. I think most of what Golb wrote allegedly was really just scholarly debate using fake names to mostly academic people.

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