sotto voce

Anyone who knows the OT and the gospels could reconstruct the letters of the NT, less the local references, of course. The letters do no more than confirm what Christians already know, and act as an objective standard for faith and practice. Authorship is immaterial.

Paul wrote because he drew the short straw. He was responsible for the wild Greeks, not the house-trained Jews. That's why we can read him.

Sheshbazzar

Horse crap.

sotto voce

Indeed. Nothing like it for fertility and fruitfulness.

Duvduv

Hi, DC. So you also view Romans as a composite of a pre-existing Jewish-friendly composition and interpolations about the Christ? It would suggest that the redactors did not want to start from scratch or reinvent the wheel. They just took pre-existing material that sounded appropriate for their doctrines and added what they felt needed to be added at the time.....

Sheshbazzar

I was raised on a farm with horses, and it was my job for most of my youth to clean the stalls.
Now that I am retired I live on an old Kentucky farm, My home fronts on an operating horse farm and 350 acres of horse pasture.
When I bought this place the barn stalls were filled with rotted horse manure. It took me the better part of a year to get it all cleaned out.
So it is likely that I'm a quite a bit more experienced with the characteristics of horse crap than you are.
There is nothing quite like it for the growing of toadstools, puffballs, and weeds. The areas where I spread it are still recovering 5 years latter.
The horse-crap of christianity only became fertile and fruitful for the growing of toadstools and weeds after a hundred years or so of being plowed and re-plowed.

As aa5874 has pointed out, the evidence indicates that these 'Pauline' epistles and The Book of Acts date to no earlier than the mid-2nd century CE.
And claims of these church forged writings being 1st century, or 'Apostolic' eyewitness reports are nothing more than pure horse crap.


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sotto voce

Then it's a great pity that I was not on hand to advise you. Had you combined the dung with bone meal, loaded it into insulated vats, and sold the clean, 'sweet', low-odour black compost resulting in only a few weeks at Kentucky summer temperatures, you would have made a handsome profit. Even after my fee.

Now, do you have any better clue about replying to #11, or do we assume that 'horse crap' represents the outer limit of your expertise?

Apparently, the latter.

:wave:

outhouse

and there is your horse pucky


all of which is opinion of which the vast majority are uneducated on the subject, using baseless assumptions

Sheshbazzar

So all you HJers need to do is come up with even one 'Pauline' manuscript that is solidly dated to the 1st century CE.


In the meantime, you might try to come up with a sensible explanation for why the Sainted Church Father, Justin, writing in the mid-2nd century CE, in all of his works, has not one single reference to any 'Paul', or to any of this 'Paul's' famous writings.
Or to any books named 'Matthew', 'Mark', 'Luke', or 'John'.

sotto voce

Off topic, red herring.

Read what I wrote. All of it.

Then justify 'horse crap'.

Sheshbazzar

I have no doubt that you, like those christers of old, are quite adept at the mixing, 'improving', and marketing of horse-shit.