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seebs · 10-03-2003, 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by Starboy
Here's a "presupposition" for you. That giving as good as you get only applies to aggressive behavior.

That presupposition has buggerall to do with atheism, and quite a lot to do with the history of the phrase. It's an idiom in English, and it applies almost exclusively to aggressive behavior.

Starboy · 10-03-2003, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by livius drusus
Again, this presupposition hinges on how you define aggressive behavior. You said theists "insult atheists all the time with what they think and are completely oblivious to it." (emphasis mine) That doesn't say anything about aggressive behavior. The insult lies in expressing the thought.

Dang drusus, you don't get it. Giving as good as you get can apply to polite behavior as well.

Starboy

Heathen Dawn · 10-03-2003, 01:30 PM

Starboy, what you’ve talked about in this second-last post is Church-State Separation. What has it to do with how theists are being treated on this discussion board?

Starboy · 10-03-2003, 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by seebs
That presupposition has buggerall to do with atheism, and quite a lot to do with the history of the phrase. It's an idiom in English, and it applies almost exclusively to aggressive behavior.

In your opinion. However you could be open minded and instead of assuming the worse you could have just asked a few simple questions.

Starboy

Starboy · 10-03-2003, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by Heathen Dawn
Starboy, what you’ve talked about in this second-last post is Church-State Separation. What has it to do with how theists are being treated on this discussion board?

Dang good question. The theists and some atheists here are poisoning the well by attributing the most negative connotation to all my comments. I am having to discuss my thoughts related to my statements because of their presumptive treatment.

Starboy

livius drusus · 10-03-2003, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by Starboy
This does not mean that I am for elimination of theists just because they are theists. For some reason drusus has poisoned the well by insisting that I advocated eliminating theists just for being theists.

Pardon? I never once said you advocated the elimination of theists. My reference to your scorched earth policy was a metaphor; it describes your approach to discourse, not an embrace of genocide.

Again, you might want to include a tad more nuance in your diet. A rise in your level of HDL argumentation* would be a boon for all our discursive healths.

*A metaphor equating quality discussion with "good" cholesterol.

livius drusus · 10-03-2003, 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by Starboy
It is just so sad that the religious only want it for themselves and no one else.

I linked to multiple examples of religious people who want to uphold that right for themselves and everybody else.

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I do find it shocking that you are so ignorant as to what this country was really founded on. Its almost as if you don't care about our country or its constitution. It makes me want to say that Christians suck!

Seebs is as far from ignorant as it gets and this entire paragraph is an ad hominem attack. As for your last line, you've already said that. You like saying it. Don't blame seebs for your desire to repeat it ad nauseam.

Starboy · 10-03-2003, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by livius drusus
I linked to multiple examples of religious people who want to uphold that right for themselves and everybody else.

Seebs is as far from ignorant as it gets and this entire paragraph is an ad hominem attack. As for your last line, you've already said that. You like saying it. Don't blame seebs for your desire to repeat it ad nauseam.

Livus are you an atheist?

livius drusus · 10-03-2003, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by Starboy
Livus are you an atheist?

It's livius.

Gurdur · 10-03-2003, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by Starboy

Livus are you an atheist?

What kind of crappy witch-hunt is being mounted here, Starboy?

You demanding people prove their Righteousness before you ?
hmmmm ?

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Heathen Dawn Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 4,656	Starboy, what you’ve talked about in this second-last post is Church-State Separation. What has it to do with how theists are being treated on this discussion board?

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