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Chili · 09-18-2005, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by CowboyHeretic

That any true believer and follower must put the things of G-d ahead of earthly things. That those of the Way are of a new family.

It's the only way, like a new marriage in Cana.

DISSIDENT AGGRESSOR · 09-18-2005, 10:18 AM

Jesus is not saying to put the the things of God first, He is clearly saying to hate your father and mother, your wife and children, your brothers and sisters and your own life if they and you are putting God first and not concerned with each other.

Misguided modern day prophets like to twist this around so they can shirk their duties to humanity and say "God comes first in mah life"

Chili · 09-18-2005, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DISSIDENT AGGRESSOR

Misguided modern day prophets like to twist this around so they can shirk their duties to humanity and say "God comes first in mah life"

You don't really think that the victory of freedom demands that it cleans up your mess, do you? Or did you forget that the son of man is a solitary individual who is born out of the city of God to be relieved from the social upheaval and hate that led to its demise (that would be like taking up the yoke of slavery a second time and is not my idea of the good life).

SaintCog · 09-18-2005, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chili

Of course mine is the Holy Bible and I wonder if that makes a difference.

You're right, thanks for the ammunition for my argument that he should burn his before it burns him.

This doesn't even merit a sarcastic remark.

Chili · 09-18-2005, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintCog

This doesn't even merit a sarcastic remark.

But very much to the point that some translations are better than others.

vsop44 · 09-18-2005, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilate

“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you … and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.�? (Matthew 11:28-30 NIV) :thumbs:

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple.�? (Luke 14:26 NIV) :down:

Isn't it written somewhere : Thou shall honor thy father and mother ? obviously Jesus and Moses were not on the same wavelenght !

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09-18-2005, 10:18 AM	#12
DISSIDENT AGGRESSOR Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Paradise! aka Panama City Beach, Fla. USofA Posts: 1,923	Jesus is not saying to put the the things of God first, He is clearly saying to hate your father and mother, your wife and children, your brothers and sisters and your own life if they and you are putting God first and not concerned with each other. Misguided modern day prophets like to twist this around so they can shirk their duties to humanity and say "God comes first in mah life"

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