wavy_wonder1

but after cursorily perusing both of these sources i still see a 2nd century date for the aramaic in daniel, so how does it help you?



~eric

arnoldo

The DSS are accepted to be copies of earlier manusripts of books such as Deuteronomy, Psalms,etc. Only the book of Daniel is thought to be an "original" writing of the 2nd BC era. here

Sheshonq

That is not what your source says, as usual. In fact, you won't find the word "original" anywhere in the citation. The pieces of Daniel at Qumran are thought to be copies; none is thought to be an original manuscript of Daniel.

What is your problem, arnoldo? Can't you even check your own source to see if it agrees with you? Or do you need everything spoon fed to you one bite at a time?

Jack the Bodiless

Amazing! You've had a divine revelation which told you which year Jesus was crucified in?

The gospels indicate that it must have been between 26AD and 36AD (Pontius Pilate's term of office), but the most popular years are 27, 33 and 36 (30 is also a possibility, depending on when the new moon would have been visible in Jerusalem): the years in which Nisan 14 was a Friday.

Not 32AD, however.

So, given that apologists don't even have a fixed target to aim at: how can any of them simply declare that the dates add up?

Other than doing a "Texas sharpshooter", of course (firing bullets at a barn and then drawing targets around them).

In this case, you seem to have missed the barn.

arnoldo

That's the point. The DSS are not "original" writing of the 2nd BC era, they are merely copies of earlier copies. No one claims that the following DSS manuscripts were written in the 2nd BC

1. 19 copies of the book of Isaiah
2. 25 copies of Deuteronomy
3. 30 copies of Psalms
4. ? copies of Jeremiah
5. ? copies of Ezekiel.

However for some reason only the book of daniel is thought to be "originally" written in the 2nd BC. Why? Allegedly because of supposedly prophetic errors. I have repeatedly asked Spin what these errors are but he hasn't answered, so I will repeat my question. You claim that the book of Daniel was written between year "a" and year "b" because after year b certain prophecies fail. Please list these "prophetic" errors which you claim are proof that the book of daniel was written between year a and year b.

spin

University library.

Do you think, when the guys that produced Daniel trotted it out as a kosher text, that it wasn't accepted immediately? Judaism was centered around a temple priesthood which was mainly in exile in 165 BCE -- those that weren't were terminally compromised when the temple was rededicated. The temple priesthood would have brought Daniel back to the temple.


spin

wavy_wonder1

in the same minute by two posters. why are you repeating it?


~eric

wavy_wonder1

i just asked for your opinion.



~eric

makerowner

I already answered this and you ignored it. The following section of ch. 11 never occurred:

[42] He shall stretch out his hand against the countries, and the land of Egypt shall not escape.
[43] He shall become ruler of the treasures of gold and of silver, and all the precious things of Egypt; and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall follow in his train.
[44] But tidings from the east and the north shall alarm him, and he shall go forth with great fury to exterminate and utterly destroy many.
[45] And he shall pitch his palatial tents between the sea and the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, with none to help him.

spin

You've just been caught out indulging in a selective reading of your Nehemiah source. You've been shown to be ignoring Isaiah. And that shows you to have ignored what you're supposed to be responding to.


spin