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But doesn't this go against Jewish custom? Was it not the custom that the eldest son takes responsibility for the mother? Jesus would most likely have handed responsibility over to his brother James, and not an unrelated apostle. Even a half-brother would have been given preference.
I agree with Tabor. If this event actually occurred, Jesus would have fingered James. The "beloved disciple" may very well be John, but this was just the writer of GJohn's attempt to embellish John's position and status. The writer of John was trying to create a gospel that superseded the other existing gospels. In order to do that, he had to position John as "the beloved disciple." Propoganda - pure and simple. |
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http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence...rum/forum.html ... in the "Expert Q&A: for Dr. James D. Tabor" section. |
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The Annunciation took place in the subconscious mind which is the home of Mary (where she was held captive by the integrity of Joseph, ie, virgin) and that came across to Joseph as a dream in his conscious mind. The firstborn is not the same as the eldest son. From water and spirit means from the subconscious and conscious mind because the dove will descend and so the source of the HS must be on hand, which is Mary. The angel of light will replace the HS but we all know where he gets his input from. |
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Then in Mark all Judaism was thrown out to leave the naked physics to which in Luke the metaphysics of Catholicsm were added to end up in John with a very practical true to life faith journey. For example notice the geneology and the fact that there is no infancy narrative in both Mark and John. |
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common theory among scholars is that the young naked man was mark himself. that part of the story stuck out in his mind because it was traumatic for him. mark was a student of peter's after christ's death, which is why peters character is emphasized so much in mark's gospel.
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I don't understand this comment by Tabor?
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