stephan huller

and you know in the earliest kabbalistic systems adonai (= malkuth) the lowest power/closest to mankind. not hard to see how it could be seen as a second power/god

stephan huller

and rabbun might explain the optime addition in Tertullian. the original source is in Syriac

stephan huller

I will run it by Baarda

stephan huller

a similar Aramaism appears in Irenaeus's citation of the Marcosian redemption rite. instead of "angels" he has "greatnesses"

stephan huller

rabbun would also explain why Matthew and the Gospel of the Hebrews have only "master" too (ie without "good"). the answer to all variants

stephan huller

The "Western" text (D it) has κύριε ῥαββί in Mark 10:51 instead of ραββουνι

stephan huller

The Peshitta has 'rabbi' in Mark 10:51 and 'rabbuli' which is odd. I don't know how that lamed popped up. It must be a corruption of rabbuni (http://books.google.com/books?id=6Pg...abbuli&f=false). I also found this at some site (of course promoting the primacy of the Aramaic):


From malpana to didaskal… (39 occurences)
Matthew 12:38, 19:16, 22:16, 22:24, 22:36
Mark 5:35, 9:17, 10:17, 10:20, 10:35, 12:14, 12:19, 13:1
Luke 2:46, 3:12, 8:49, 9:38, 10:25, 11:45, 12:13, 18:18, 20:21, 20:28, 20:39, 21:7
John 3:2, 3:10, 8:4, 20:16
Acts 13:1
Romans 2:20
1Corinthians 12:28, 12:29
Ephesians 4:11
1Timothy 2:7
2Timothy 1:11, 4:3
Hebrews 5:12
James 3:1

From rabbi to didaskal… (18 occurences)
Matthew 8:19, 9:11, 10:24, 10:25, 17:24, 23:8, 26:18
Mark 4:38, 9:38, 14:14
Luke 6:40, 7:40, 19:39, 22:11
John 1:38, 11:28, 13:13, 13:14

From rabbi to rabbi¦ (17 occurences)
Matthew 23:7, 23:8, 26:25, 26:49
Mark 9:5, 10:51, 11:21, 12:32, 14:45, 20:16
John 1:49, 3:2, 3:26, 4:31, 6:25, 9:2, 11:8

Detailed Linguistic Analysis
malpana=>didaskale (24 occurences)
Matthew 12:38, 19:16, 22:16, 22:24, 22:36
Mark 9:17, 10:17, 10:20, 10:35, 12:14, 12:19, 13:1
Luke 3:12, 9:38, 10:25, 11:45, 12:13, 18:18, 20:21, 20:28, 20:39, 21:7
John 8:4, 20:16

malpana=>didaskalon (3 occurences)
Mark 5:35
Luke 8:49
Romans 2:20

malpana=>didaskalos (3 occurences)
John 3:2
1Timothy 2:7
2Timothy 1:11

malpane=>didaskaloi (4 occurences)
Acts 13:1
1Corinthians 12:29
Hebrews 5:12
James 3:1

malpane=>didaskalōn (1 occurence)
Luke 2:46

malpane=>didaskalous (3 occurences)
1Corinthians 12:28
Ephesians 4:11
2Timothy 4:3

malpaneh=>didaskalos (1 occurence)
John 3:10

From …Br (RB/rabbi)
rabban=>didaskalos (8 occurences)
Matthew 26:18
Mark 4:38, 14:14
Luke 22:11
John 1:38, 11:28, 13:13, 13:14

rabban=>rabbi (5 occurences)
John 3:26, 4:31, 6:25, 9:2, 11:8

rabbeh=>didaskalon (3 occurences)
Matthew 10:24, 10:25
Luke 6:40

rabbi=>didaskale (4 occurences)
Matthew 8:19
Mark 9:38
Luke 7:40, 19:39

rabbi=>rabbi (10 occurences)
Matthew 23:7, 23:8, 26:25, 26:49
Mark 9:5, 11:21, 12:32, 14:45
John 1:49, 3:2

rabbi=>rabbouni (1 occurence)
Mark 10:51

rabkhun=>didaskalos (3 occurences)
Matthew 9:11, 17:24, 23:8

rabbuli=>rabbouni (1 occurence)
John 20:16

stephan huller

I don't know if any of you have ever had that feeling where you are holding the most obvious clues in your hand and you can't believe you didn't see the answer before. The most common example of this type of experience is when someone you've been going out with is cheating on you. In this case it is the dualistic idea of 'the Lord of this world' is evil. This can't be Jewish - can it? Well I had mentioned before that Jastrow points to the title "Lord of the world"


being developed into an acronym:


The geresh (i.e. the quotation mark thing ") is just there to note that this is an acronym. What kind of an imbecile can't see that the acronym spells out 'evil'

רֶ֫שַׁע

Apparently me and everyone else.

The association of evils with the Lord of the worlds is everywhere plainly evident. Take a look at Ber 9b's discussion of Exodus 3:14:

There are clearly two powers in heaven. The evil manifest against outsiders and the mercy shown to Israel. How could that one have been missed?

Here is an example of the acronym in Dalman http://books.google.com/books?id=Jl4...%D7%A2&f=false

Listed as one of many acronyms http://www.otzar.org/wotzar/pagetext...c=1&pagenum=93

It seems to be at least as old as Pesiqta rabbati (9th century): http://books.google.com/books?id=dno...=0CC4Q6AEwADge

Irenaeus says the name Jesus (yeshu) is a similar acronym = Lord of heaven and earth.

Toto

From http://webtranslation.paralink.com/H...h-Translation/

Ribono Shel Olam

:huh:


RSA ? RSO ??

Toto

Did you ever see the movie Pi? (Not the Life of Pi.)

Sometimes what you post feels like it belongs in a similar movie.