TySixtus

In other words, they speak in nonsense.

How is it possible for someone to "be" the light?

Further, what is "the light"?

Ty

freigeister

It doesn't ring everybody's bell, that's for sure.

911

If you want my 2 cents worth - it is not Christian interpretation much less mainstream Christian if you know what I mean.

The way I see it; Jesus was trying to tell the Jews that the way to God was not through religious practices and keeping the laws of Moses.

It simply was faith in God.

The first temptation in the wilderness; If thou be the Son of God; turn this bread into stone.

The minute Jesus turns it into stone is to show a lack of Faith; once Jesus turns the rock into bread; faith is then not required; there is proof. Stone turning into bread is proof!

Thus atheist similarly are always requiring proof. If you believe in God; ask yourself - how is man ever going to proof God? Why should God stoop down to your level and give you proof? Does God need you or do you need God? If you think you do not need God fair enough. Just do not expect God to "prove" himself to you.

It is almost like telling Bush to pay you a visit at home before you will even consider voting for him. An absurdity.

After Jesus died; the disciples needed a way to convince the Jews to abandon their dependence on keeping the law for "salvation."

What better way than to tell them that all the law keeping was no longer necessary because Jesus had paid the penalty. The Jews did not buy it and so they sold it to the rest of the world.

It is obvious that Abraham did not have the ten commandments and yet he was chosen by God; simply because of his faith in God. It is like; if Abraham could well, so could I then. If Abraham could before Jesus came; well so could I then, without Jesus.

When Jesus says I am... what he meant was that the way is not law keeping and religious practices.. look at me I am the way, by Faith... not all these rubbish like even healing someone is not acceptable just because it is the sabbath!

Condemning someone just because she is a prostutite like you yourself have no sin.

The Christians then turn the teaching of Jesus 360 degrees and now they have replaced Jewish religious practices with Christian religious practices and Jewish laws with Christain laws; keep them if you want to be right with God.

Think about it. Is God so small and petty like man? Make a mistake and hell fire you go? That's what man is isn't it? Irritate me and I shoot you; if laws of a country do not exist.

There are many other issues like what exactly is faith in God and what about morality and so on... but that like they say, is another story.

pharoah

The Jesus-Horus connection appears to be based on some questionable 19th century - early 20th century writings, as is most of the other Savior god comparisons.

Mountain Man

What makes you think that we even care how you interpret anything? Do what you want. Why bother us about it? Are you here just to proselytize? Do you actually believe you're going to get any converts here? Or is this just to get you extra points with your gods?

Mountain Man

Of course his death was different - IT'S ALL PART OF THE MYTH! The main difference between jesus and me, is that I exist.

Mountain Man

Then why was there no mention of him, or his death, until long after? It meant nothing to those there at the time. Oh, it meant nothing because it never happened. IT'S A MYTH! :banghead:

Diogenes the Cynic

This makes no sense at all. Why should anyone believe without proof? Why is there any virtue in blind faith?

If God isn't willing to prove his own existence, then he has no right to expect anyone to believe it. How is anyone supposed to know something is true without evidence. You're saying that it's not good enough to worship God, you have to be able to randomly guess which religion is true with absolutely no evidence. That's completely absurd.

Diogenes the Cynic

As to the OP, the "way and the truth and the light" speech is not considered to be one of the authentic sayings of Jesus even by (non-religious) scholars who accept HJ.

freigeister

Citations, please.