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07-29-2009, 12:52 PM | #11 | ||
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they took him down from the cross and placed him in a tomb surely this is referring to a physical cross and a physical tomb.But God raised him from the dead, in a vacumm, this phrase could go either way, maybe it was a spiritual raising. However, it is not in a vacuum, it is surrounded the previous mention of a tomb and the following mention of a raising from the dead. He was dead in the tomb and was raisied from it. and for many days he appeared to those who had accompanied him from Galilee to Jerusalem. Summary, a real cross, a real tomb, a raising from the dead, an appearing for many days. Are you suggesting that this author is stating that Jesus is still in the tomb after being raised and appearing to many? real, cross, real tomb, allegorical raising, allegorical appearing, real speech - is that really what you see here? |
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Peter "saw" Moses and Elijah on the Mount of Transfiguration, so should we look for their empty tombs? |
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(Luke 24:3) but when they went in, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus. (Matt 28:6) He is not here, for he has been raised, just as he said. Come and see the place where he was lying. (John 20:2) So she went running to Simon Peter and the other disciple whom Jesus loved and told them, "They have taken the Lord from the tomb, and we don't know where they have put him!" (Acts 13:29) When they had accomplished everything that was written about him, they took him down from the cross and placed him in a tomb. (Acts 13:30) But God raised him from the dead, (Acts 13:31) and for many days he appeared to those who had accompanied him from Galilee to Jerusalem. Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John all seem to be talking about a missing physical body. The body was raised and is no longer present in the tomb in all 4 gospels. The body was in the tomb in Acts but was raised. The author of Luke / Acts thought the body was raised in Luke but changed his mind in Acts? Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John refer to a physical raising from the dead and mentioned the missing body, and then the same author referred to the same cross, same tomb, same raising, but did not mean physically like he meant in Luke???? Luke, the same author goes a step further and points out... (Luke 24:39) Look at my hands and my feet; it's me! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones like you see I have."Why is the spiritual allegorical Jesus eating fish? The theological aims of all 4 authors seems to be to give you the impression that jesus rose bodily from his tomb and went to some lengths to make sure you understood it was bodily. I do not see why Peter's speech would be taken out of this context (of at least the rest of the book of Acts) ---------------------------- The transfiguration has very different language. (Matt 17:9) Jesus commanded them, "Do not tell anyone about the vision until the Son of Man is raised from the dead." |
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What does the Gospel of Peter tell us?
Should we be looking for a walking talking cross? Did any of the ancient historians report a used cross wandering around Judea, talking to itself "YEAH"! Evidently the gPeter is written as a satire however the simple and apolitical christians, against whom the satire was directed, are unable to detect the satire against their own preferred sect. We can be sure the ancient christians understood the satire, and immediately banned this book, and caused it to go underground. |
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I would suggest that in the author's opinion:
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