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Old 04-20-2005, 10:03 AM   #11
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The reverence of the Virgin Mary is one of the RCC’s most abdominal perversions—one with a legacy to early Babylon-thus Satanic. There is no Scriptural justification for what Constantine did or for what the RCC continues to teach regarding Christmas, Easter, Lent, Popes, Fathers, Nuns, Monks, Mary, LORD, the mark of the cross, the crucifix, confession and Sunday worship, so if anyone is responsible for creating this image, my guess would be Satan/Haylal. In Clearwater Florida( my neck of the woods) a building window bore a resemblance of this also. Being in the glass industry, I found it particularly amusing because I saw this type of water/metal stain on glass ALL the time. The chaos it created was unreal. The building eventually sold it's practice(insurance, I think), because they couldn't get any work done with all the people/nuts everyday in their parking lot. They sold it to a church so they could worship a piece of weather stained glass. I think these are the same lunatics who came out to pollute the grounds where Terry Shiavo(sp?) died. Local school children had to see these blood clad, costume wearing idiots everyday going to school before they had to shut the school down for the safety of the elementary school students. Good job zealots, and since when was it such a bad thing to die, and wait to be embraced by the creator?
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The reverence of the Virgin Mary is one of the RCC’s most abdominal perversions—one with a legacy to early Babylon-thus Satanic.
Hmm. I think the notion of "Satan" is an abominable perversion. And BTW, "Satan" is a notion that Judaism/Christianity adopted from other "pagan" religions in the first place.

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There is no Scriptural justification for what Constantine did or for what the RCC continues to teach regarding Christmas, Easter, Lent, Popes, Fathers, Nuns, Monks, Mary, LORD, the mark of the cross, the crucifix, confession and Sunday worship, so if anyone is responsible for creating this image, my guess would be Satan/Haylal.
I suspect that the RCC would disagree with you on at least some of that, and point to other methods of justification that they do believe in for all of it. (The RCC does not practice Sola Scriptura, so your accusation that there is "no scriptural justification" for some of their beliefs wouldn't carry a lot of weight with them).

But go right ahead, accuse the RCC as being the implement of Satan; I'm rather amused by these inter-cult disagreements and accusations.
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Old 04-20-2005, 10:51 AM   #13
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The reverence of the Virgin Mary is one of the RCC’s most abdominal perversions—one with a legacy to early Babylon-thus Satanic.
So ancient Babyloninans revered the Virgin Mary's abdomen?

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There is no Scriptural justification for what Constantine did or for what the RCC continues to teach regarding Christmas, Easter, Lent, Popes, Fathers, Nuns, Monks, Mary, LORD, the mark of the cross, the crucifix, confession and Sunday worship, so if anyone is responsible for creating this image, my guess would be Satan/Haylal.
I guess that pretty much makes Christians the sworn enemy of God doesn't it? Things are looking up for Islam and Judaism.

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In Clearwater Florida( my neck of the woods) a building window bore a resemblance of this also. Being in the glass industry, I found it particularly amusing because I saw this type of water/metal stain on glass ALL the time. The chaos it created was unreal. The building eventually sold it's practice(insurance, I think), because they couldn't get any work done with all the people/nuts everyday in their parking lot. They sold it to a church so they could worship a piece of weather stained glass.
Indeed. You have to be some kind of retard to grasp some kind of spiritual signifigance in otherwise every-day objects like glass, walls, stains, a missing body from a tomb, a large heavy book that makes you feel good.... :devil3:

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Good job zealots, and since when was it such a bad thing to die, and wait to be embraced by the creator?
That is a REALLY good question! Let's run with this idea: the world's first Christian Abortion Clinic. Nobody wants the baby, we can just kill it and send it straight into the waiting arms of Jesus for an eternity of eternal bliss and beatitude, never knowing the suffering of the mortal world! :thumbs:

I wonder why we don't see that more often? You'd almost think Christians don't actually believe in heaven or something. :sneaky:
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Our minds, with a few billion years of practice, are highly skilled at pattern forming, comparisons and then decisions - its going to eat me, I can eat it, hmm looks a fun place to go!

We are looking at where the immaculate conception happened! Where is the nearest RC church for me to confess, hang on, a new sect worshipping her rude bits sounds fun! :devil3:
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TThere is no Scriptural justification for what Constantine did...
Then Christianity has real problems, since Constantine is also the one who defined the Christian canon.
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Just to add a disjointed comment to this thread, I've never understood Marian worship either. It doesn't have scriptural justification.
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I coulda swore you said underpants stain...
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Isn’t it amazing how all the Virgin Mary and Jesus images such as this one invariably look like their Renaissance, Caucasian depictions, as opposed to their actual Semitic likenesses? It couldn’t be that people are seeing what they’ve been conditioned to see could it?
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Just to add a disjointed comment to this thread, I've never understood Marian worship either. It doesn't have scriptural justification.
But technically, any belief by any member of a xian sect does not have scriptural justification! It is all extrapolated and interpreted and edited from what someone wrote in the first place, and even lots of that is second hand!

There is a strong argument in terms of Mary. The woman who gives birth to God is pretty hot stuff!
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I'm not impressed. It doesn't sound like the RCC is very impressed, either:

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The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Chicago had not received any requests to authenticate the image as of Monday, spokesman Jim Dwyer said.
"These things don't happen every day," Dwyer said. "Sometimes people ask us to look into it. Most of the time they don't. (The meaning) depends on the individual who sees it. To them, it's real. To them, it reaffirms their faith."


I have a question: how do stains count as "miracles"? I mean, even if you accept that this is the Virgin Mary making an appearance, why would she choose to work such a useless "miracle" when she could have, say, miraculously fed all the hungry people in a given region or made a blind person see or something useful like that? I don't recall any bible stories of Jesus wandering around making stains on walls...
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