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Old 02-02-2007, 05:34 AM   #211
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Also, what do you do with Papias, 1 Clement, and Ignatius?
My evil database of NT quotations in the apostolic fathers yeilded the following:

IGN-EPH-S COR 1 01:10
IGN-EPH-S COR 1 01:20
IGN-EPH-S EPH 05:02
IGN-EPH-S MATT 12:33
IGN-POL-S MATT 10:16
IGN-ROM-S COR 1 04:04
IGN-ROM-S COR 2 04:18
IGN-ROM-S MATT 16:26 SOME OMIT
IGN-SMY-S MATT 29:12
IGN-SMY-S UKN NON-NT GOSPEL

CLEMENT1 ACTS 20:35
CLEMENT1 COR 1 02:09
CLEMENT1 HEB 01:03-04
CLEMENT1 JAS 01:08
CLEMENT1 JAS 02:23
CLEMENT1 LUKE 06:36-38
CLEMENT1 MATT 06:12-15
CLEMENT1 MATT 07:02
CLEMENT1 PET 2 03:03-04
CLEMENT1 ROM 01:32
CLEMENT1 ROM 12:05

As for Justin, he seems to directly quote mainly Matt & Luke, a little bit of Mark, and John once. Still, he does seem to quote 1st Cor once (11:19):

JUSTIN-AP1 Q JOHN 03:05
JUSTIN-AP1 Q LUKE 06:28
JUSTIN-AP1 Q LUKE 06:29
JUSTIN-AP1 Q LUKE 06:30,34
JUSTIN-AP1 Q LUKE 06:36
JUSTIN-AP1 Q LUKE 10:16
JUSTIN-AP1 Q LUKE 12:48
JUSTIN-AP1 Q LUKE 13:26
JUSTIN-AP1 Q LUKE 22:19
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MARK 12:30
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 05:27,34
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 05:28
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 05:29
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 05:32
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 05:44,46
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 05:45
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 06:01
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 06:16-22,41
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 06:19
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 06:20
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 06:21,25-26,33
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 07:15-16,19
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 07:21 FF
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 09:13
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 10:28
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 11:27 1ST TIME
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 11:27 2ND TIME
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 13:42
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 16:26
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 19:12
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 19:16,17
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 19:26
JUSTIN-AP1 Q MATT 22:17,19-21
JUSTIN-DIA Q COR 1 11:19
JUSTIN-DIA Q LUKE 01:38
JUSTIN-DIA Q LUKE 06:35
JUSTIN-DIA Q LUKE 09:22
JUSTIN-DIA Q LUKE 10:19 W/VARIANT
JUSTIN-DIA Q LUKE 11:LOOSE QUOTES
JUSTIN-DIA Q LUKE 18:18 F
JUSTIN-DIA Q LUKE 20:35 F
JUSTIN-DIA Q LUKE 22:42,44
JUSTIN-DIA Q LUKE 23:46
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 03:11-12
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 04:09-10
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 04:10
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 05:20
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 07:15
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 07:22
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 08:11
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 08:11 F
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 08:11 F
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 11:12-15
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 11:27
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 12:38 F
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 13:03
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 16:21
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 17:12
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 21:13
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 22:37
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 23:23-24,27
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 23:LOOSE QUOTES
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 24:11
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 25:41
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 26:39 1ST TIME
JUSTIN-DIA Q MATT 26:39 2ND TIME
JUSTIN-DIA Q UKN NON-NT GOSPEL
JUSTIN-DIA Q UKN NON-NT GOSPEL
JUSTIN-DIA Q UKN NON-NT LOGION
JUSTIN-RES Q ACTS 01:09
JUSTIN-RES Q LUKE 24:32 ETC
JUSTIN-RES Q MARK 02:17
JUSTIN-RES Q MARK 12:25

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My evil database of NT quotations in the apostolic fathers yeilded the following....
Hi. Why evil?

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As for Justin, he seems to directly quote mainly Matt & Luke, a little bit of Mark, and John once. Still, he does seem to quote 1st Cor once (11:19)....
Thanks for that list. On my site I am very, very slowly compiling all the contacts between Justin and the gospel materials. The list may come in handy; right now I am just using the Synopsis Quattuor Evangeliorum, but it misses a few parallels (including, notably, the Boanerges overlap between Dialogue 106.3 and Mark 3.17; this text is included in the appendix as an attestation to gospel origins, but not in the main text, IIRC, as a parallel to that pericope in Mark).

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ETA: Where is the 1 Corinthians quote found in Justin? Thanks.
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Old 02-02-2007, 06:26 AM   #213
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As for Justin, he seems to directly quote mainly Matt & Luke, a little bit of Mark, and John once. Still, he does seem to quote 1st Cor once (11:19):

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Concerning the supposed 1 Cor. 11:19 reference, Justin (Dialogue ch. 35) attributes the saying to Jesus, not Paul.

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Old 02-02-2007, 09:28 AM   #214
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Because it is not edifying to the faithful. Tongue is, of course, firmly in mouth.

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Thanks for that list. On my site I am very, very slowly compiling all the contacts between Justin and the gospel materials. The list may come in handy; right now I am just using the Synopsis Quattuor Evangeliorum, but it misses a few parallels (including, notably, the Boanerges overlap between Dialogue 106.3 and Mark 3.17; this text is included in the appendix as an attestation to gospel origins, but not in the main text, IIRC, as a parallel to that pericope in Mark).

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ETA: Where is the 1 Corinthians quote found in Justin? Thanks.
I'd have to look it up. The list was compiled from the Ante Nicene Christian Fathers series about 10-11 years ago, and everything points to page numbers in the appropriate volume. Unfortunately, all my printed volumes are packed in boxes at the moment. FWIW, it was page 212.

What I did was look up each citation listed in the footnotes, and graded it on the basis of whether it seemed to me to be a quote, allusion, commonplace, or figments of the imaginations of the ANF editors. This was all done in English translation and not very scientific.

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Concerning the supposed 1 Cor. 11:19 reference, Justin (Dialogue ch. 35) attributes the saying to Jesus, not Paul.
Thanks, Jake! Turns out I had it on my Justin Martyr page all along, not to mention my agrapha page! I just plain forgot about it.

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.... On my site I am very, very slowly compiling all the contacts between Justin and the gospel materials. The list may come in handy; right now I am just using the Synopsis Quattuor Evangeliorum, but it misses a few parallels (including, notably, the Boanerges overlap between Dialogue 106.3 and Mark 3.17; this text is included in the appendix as an attestation to gospel origins, but not in the main text, IIRC, as a parallel to that pericope in Mark).

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