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Weltall · 10-22-2005, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jastity

Looks like he's scarpered....

So he has, he's buggered off. I feel a song coming on: Brave Wael the hit-and-run...

colin · 10-22-2005, 04:11 PM

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I am trying here to convince them that there is a God who has created the universe.

What...?! Again...?! :banghead:
I give you a :thumbs: for determination!

Spaam · 10-22-2005, 04:36 PM

I followed your last thread and sure you posted more than once in the same thread, but you didn't reply to anything anyone said. You can't just hit'n run post something using a blindfold so you can't see any of the counter-arguments, and yet somehow expect a debate. Ignore this person... not worth the time.

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Originally Posted by Wael El-Manzalawy

I invite the readers to read the Holy Quran to know more about Islam.

I invite you to read to (and reply) to the replies you got in the last thread.

Lilyofthevalley · 10-22-2005, 04:48 PM

Wael, I was glad you posted again - but like these guys have said, there was nothing new.

Could you tell us this: What do you know of God? You, personally. What is He like?

David B · 10-22-2005, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by firebird

I'll ask god to make you go away from this forum, <edit>. QUIT trying to convert people to your belief, be happy and leave me alone.

You're like the waves of the sea, it makes me SICK.

SCREW ISLAM!!!!!!!!

And how is he going to learn if you drive him away?

And what god is that that you are going to ask, and what evidence do you have that it listens?

You don't want to read what he says? So put him on ignore.

David B

Mujahid_Munafiq · 10-22-2005, 05:52 PM

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Many secular persons deny the presence of the God. I am trying here to convince them that there is a God who has created the universe.

it won't work. Your arguments wouldn't even convince me, and I already believe in God.

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Many secular persons will argue that the God is unseen and they believe only in what they see. The God is unseen but we can see the evidences of His presence. The earth, the sky, the stars, the moon, the sun, the sea and the harmony of the universe are all evidences that there is a God who has created the universe.

no, it is simply evidence that laws of physics are working correctly.

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The harmony and the greatness of the universe are evidences of the Wisdom and Greatness of the Creator. Let`s assume that there is no creator, then what is the cause of the harmony and greatness of the universe? Did the sun, the moon, the land, the sea. The stars ….etc have a meeting and decided what to do? They are too many and everyone would want the universe as he wants. We are sure that the sun, the moon ….etc are not wise. Then we can say that the harmony and greatness of the universe are clear evidences that there is a Wise and Great Creator.

Why should there only be one creator?

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In Islam, we believe in the One and the Only God. In the dayafter, the believers will enter the Heaven while the non-believers will be punished. In Islam, we believe that the God has no sons. We are not like christians who believe that the God has a son. This belief is completely untrue and illogical. If the God decided something and His son decided another contradicting thing, what will happen?

Um... I'm pretty sure most of the people here know this already. Why state the obvious?

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I ask the readers of this article to think deeply about the presence of the God. If you came to a conclusion that there is a God who has created the universe, please ask the God from your hearts to guide you to the true religion. I am sure that the God will guide you to Islam. I invite the readers to read the Holy Quran to know more about Islam.

How about you read in for once? Or better yet, why don't you take a college course in Philosophy or Cosmology.

I have doubts this user is actual. This guy is obviously someone pretending to be a Muslim to make Muslims look bad.

colin · 10-22-2005, 05:57 PM

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And how is he going to learn if you drive him away?

DB, he's not interested in learning - just preaching. When people reply, they are ignored. A "Talk to the Hand" type of thing.
I do feel that fb's post was a bit harsh, but I do agree with "screw Islam". In fact, screw Mohammed (cbuh - curses be upon him) and the camel he rode in on.

(CBUH for Mohammed that is - not the camel.)

Neverhuman · 10-22-2005, 06:07 PM

This is the exact same text you wrote in that other thread of yours, Wael. Are you trying to make a fool out of yourself and your religion? In that case, you sure are succeeding.

firebird · 10-22-2005, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by David B

And how is he going to learn if you drive him away?

And what god is that that you are going to ask, and what evidence do you have that it listens?

You don't want to read what he says? So put him on ignore.

David B

Good idea!

fb

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10-22-2005, 04:48 PM	#14
Lilyofthevalley Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Northern England Posts: 282	Wael, I was glad you posted again - but like these guys have said, there was nothing new. Could you tell us this: What do you know of God? You, personally. What is He like?

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Neverhuman Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 73	This is the exact same text you wrote in that other thread of yours, Wael. Are you trying to make a fool out of yourself and your religion? In that case, you sure are succeeding.

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