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02-19-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LibertyChic

bawk

bawk

Libby, I think I'm the only CHICKEN around here

Cluck cak cak cka... cluck!

02-19-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jameseb

Hehe, I remember seeing that request too! I don't even think it could be traced back to me via IP though. I think I posted in that thread that it was me before she ran the trace. :angel: Hehe, did you get suspicious over it, or did it seem familiar? Or were the clues easy enough? :P

P.S.

Or did she run it? I can't remember now. Hm. Wish I could run an IP trace on it and see.

She ran it... and it matches.

I was suspicious... I knew the posts felt familiar, but I didn't place it to you. I was thinking it was a re-tread.

Wings To Fly · 02-19-2006, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ravenscape

In the non-Christian Religion forum.

http://www.christianforums.com/showp...7&postcount=18

I reported it. Looks like a rule 1.3 violation to me.

And it's gone.

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Originally Posted by Joykins1

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Originally Posted by ravenscape

In the non-Christian Religion forum.

http://www.christianforums.com/showp...7&postcount=18

I reported it. Looks like a rule 1.3 violation to me.

That Deren is a piece of work, indeed

Ah, Deren. That explains everything.

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Originally Posted by ravenscape

Backed up by scripture I hope. At CF it's perfectly ok to tell someone they're hellbound provided you include a Bible verse.

Ah, he provides scripture now?! No way!!!!!

In my time, I deleted a countless number of Derens post (particularly in the large culls of those messy 100+ page long rule 1 & 4.2 threads) for uncited claims to peoples salvation.

First and only time i've ever been repeatedly abused in PM as a mod. Eh.

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Originally Posted by Cat59

Actually there was a whole thread dedicated to hell recently in GA which told a whole load of people where they were going, started by Deren.

Secondary Source to that.

Jameseb · 02-19-2006, 09:31 PM

And what better place to post if for critical scrutiny!

What would you all think of CF redefining itself as a community of Christians... a community of Christians with unique and differing faiths and beliefs. A site that doesn't try to define what it means to be Christian, accepting that while we consider ourselves followers of Christ, our traditions and beliefs vary.

The idea would be to get away from the bickering and fighting over who gets to call themselves Christian and who doesn't. Whether a site allows it or not, people will still call themselves what they will. While broadening the doors, this doesn't mean CF endorses any one belief - After all, we still have the individual faith forums, but the fight over who wears what icon and who gets to decide if its Christian or not will be moot. Let each faith have its own definition of 'Christian' if they wish.

Instead of trying to "unite" all Christians (which comes down to tooth and nail fighting and arguing as the rules are constantly in flux, doomed forever in a tumultuous attempt to define a system that fits all Christian faiths), treat the community as a "confederation" of Christians. We each have our different beliefs about what it is or isn't to be a Christian... and if we simply must have a general definition let it just be "a follower and believer in Christ". That's it. Nothing more. Now if you wanted to be a member of the Orthodox or Catholic community, you would obviously have to accept the Nicene Creed. But to be a Messianic Jew you wouldn't have to accept this creed. You're still a Christian under the more simpler definition, but each faith retains the right to define a Christian according to their beliefs. The debate over who's right and wrong can still be had in the appropriate forums of course. Battle to your hearts content... bon appetit.

I'm not that good at penning my thoughts, but what do people think about this? Obviously this is just a rough draft proposal, but if I'm looney or missing something, please let me know. I've thought about PMing Erwin regarding this, but I'd really like to have others give me their opinions and thoughts first. Maybe even help me define the idea a whole lot better.

Thanks.

Wings To Fly · 02-19-2006, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by loribee59

kinda skimmed thru it~ surprised that Deamiter was willing to clean it up, leave in the debate(s) and reopen the thread.

BTW, Old Shepherd's mod hat is a hoot..

http://www1.christianforums.com/atta...chmentid=63525

ETA: the image box isn't working when I put in the image URL. hmmm

Ya man, that's why it got reopened. Deamiter's a champ and a half, if i wasn't president of the Ksen Fan Klub, i'd have to start one for Deam.

Wings To Fly · 02-19-2006, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fragmentsofdreams

It's Ike, Kyle's adopted Canadian brother.

You can tell he's Canadian because his mouth is a line across his entire head.

:rolling:

Oh how i wish IIDB had reps. Maybe we should get awards instead. You always have me in fits, Frags.

rigorist · 02-19-2006, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jameseb

And what better place to post if for critical scrutiny!

What would you all think of CF redefining itself as a community of Christians... a community of Christians with unique and differing faiths and beliefs. A site that doesn't try to define what it means to be Christian, accepting that while we consider ourselves followers of Christ, our traditions and beliefs vary.

The idea would be to get away from the bickering and fighting over who gets to call themselves Christian and who doesn't. Whether a site allows it or not, people will still call themselves what they will. While broadening the doors, this doesn't mean CF endorses any one belief - After all, we still have the individual faith forums, but the fight over who wears what icon and who gets to decide if its Christian or not will be moot. Let each faith have its own definition of 'Christian' if they wish.

Instead of trying to "unite" all Christians (which comes down to tooth and nail fighting and arguing as the rules are constantly in flux, doomed forever in a tumultuous attempt to define a system that fits all Christian faiths), treat the community as a "confederation" of Christians. We each have our different beliefs about what it is or isn't to be a Christian... and if we simply must have a general definition let it just be "a follower and believer in Christ". That's it. Nothing more. Now if you wanted to be a member of the Orthodox or Catholic community, you would obviously have to accept the Nicene Creed. But to be a Messianic Jew you wouldn't have to accept this creed. You're still a Christian under the more simpler definition, but each faith retains the right to define a Christian according to their beliefs. The debate over who's right and wrong can still be had in the appropriate forums of course. Battle to your hearts content... bon appetit.

I'm not that good at penning my thoughts, but what do people think about this? Obviously this is just a rough draft proposal, but if I'm looney or missing something, please let me know. I've thought about PMing Erwin regarding this, but I'd really like to have others give me their opinions and thoughts first. Maybe even help me define the idea a whole lot better.

Thanks.

Sounds good to me.

Wings To Fly · 02-19-2006, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jameseb

Please don't tell me that our Canadian friend has never seen South Park....

Illuminatus, go rent South Park the Movie!

Don't encourage the boy into dirty habits. South Park is of the devil! :devil:

Wings To Fly · 02-19-2006, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by countrygal

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.23

and it places me somewhere between ghandi and the dalai lama. what's that mean?

It means you got the same position as me and Nelson Mandella! :grin:

LoneStar · 02-19-2006, 11:33 PM

Morning all! :wave:

02-19-2006, 09:31 PM	#1024
Jameseb Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: United States Posts: 857	Hmm... an Idea... And what better place to post if for critical scrutiny! What would you all think of CF redefining itself as a community of Christians... a community of Christians with unique and differing faiths and beliefs. A site that doesn't try to define what it means to be Christian, accepting that while we consider ourselves followers of Christ, our traditions and beliefs vary. The idea would be to get away from the bickering and fighting over who gets to call themselves Christian and who doesn't. Whether a site allows it or not, people will still call themselves what they will. While broadening the doors, this doesn't mean CF endorses any one belief - After all, we still have the individual faith forums, but the fight over who wears what icon and who gets to decide if its Christian or not will be moot. Let each faith have its own definition of 'Christian' if they wish. Instead of trying to "unite" all Christians (which comes down to tooth and nail fighting and arguing as the rules are constantly in flux, doomed forever in a tumultuous attempt to define a system that fits all Christian faiths), treat the community as a "confederation" of Christians. We each have our different beliefs about what it is or isn't to be a Christian... and if we simply must have a general definition let it just be "a follower and believer in Christ". That's it. Nothing more. Now if you wanted to be a member of the Orthodox or Catholic community, you would obviously have to accept the Nicene Creed. But to be a Messianic Jew you wouldn't have to accept this creed. You're still a Christian under the more simpler definition, *but* each faith retains the right to define a Christian according to their beliefs. The debate over who's right and wrong can still be had in the appropriate forums of course. Battle to your hearts content... bon appetit. I'm not that good at penning my thoughts, but what do people think about this? Obviously this is just a rough draft proposal, but if I'm looney or missing something, please let me know. I've thought about PMing Erwin regarding this, but I'd really like to have others give me their opinions and thoughts first. Maybe even help me define the idea a whole lot better. Thanks.

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