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Richard Pervo, a Christian but not an evangelical, has written several books detailing his reasons for rejecting the historicity of Acts (the latest being The Mystery of Acts (or via: amazon.co.uk).) Donald Akenson (or via: amazon.co.uk) accepts the Pauline epistles and rejects Acts because it is inconsistent with Paul's own words. Vernon K. Robbins treats Acts as a literary composition. Do you have any examples to the contrary? |
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You prove my point.
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I'm not sure that the divide is quite as clean as you imply. Scholars would doubtlessly be more or less unanimous (excluding evangelicals) in rejecting Acts as an "historical" narrative, there nevertheless seems to be at least a sizable contingent of academics who think there is something worthwhile to be found in Acts as pertains to Paul and his mission. |
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The author of Acts claimed and was also stated in the Pauline writings that: 1. "Paul" persecuted people who believed in Christ. 2. "Paul" was converted to the FAITH. 3. "Paul" was STONED and beaten and imprisoned. 4. "Paul" traveled ALL over the Roman Empire. 5. "Paul" traveled with Barnabas to Jerusalem. Acts contains the supposed post-Ascension history of Saul/Paul and if Acts is rejected then the Pauline writings are internally UNCORROBORATED and further, not even the Church knew what "PAUL" wrote. Acts and the Pauline writings are extremely historically problematic and should NOT be accepted without external corroborative sources but there are none. It MUST be that if "PAUL" had a KNOWN credible history then there would have been NO need for Acts of the Apostles. |
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The Marcionite rejection of Acts should be enough to raise suspicions about its authenticity. The fact that Irenaeus says that not only did the Marcionites reject the book itself but the claims (i.e. that there was an 'apostle Paul,' that the common apostle was named Saul) should force us to take a second look at claims of it being an authentic history.
A parallel is the Samaritan rejection of almost all books of the 'Old Testament' save only for the Pentateuch and parts of Joshua (and even then Joshua is of clearly subordinate authority). This must have been the original position of all Israelites given the fact that the proiphetic books were undoubtedly written after the Law was established (or at least were canonized subsequent to the Pentateuch). The Marcionite NT was older and existed without Acts. Luke is claimed to be the original Marcionite gospel but how is this possible when the Marcionites rejected everything about Acts which was clearly written by the same author (or at least parts of Luke were written by the author of Acts)? |
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But is there really any good reason to presume any of this? I can't see why. Paul uses cross symbolism in a weird mystical way, and while maybe that symbolism is rooted in something he participated in, it need not be. Quote:
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