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Old 09-22-2009, 06:01 PM   #51
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Did Jesus die on the Cross? NO. He was taken down resuscitated and went away with his wife Mary Madgalene and family.
That's an invention by the Merovingian to establish their power in France. They wanted to claim direct lineage to Jesus. This is similar to what the Jewish scribes did when they chose to leave out all references to other humans during the times of Adam. Since they couldn't directly link themselves to him, they had to whole world drown in a deluge.
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I have a theory on this, which I have never read in the mainstream. I believe he was arrested and killed for teaching Jewish mysticism to gentiles. The Talmud contains an anecdote about a "Certain Galilean" who was killed "by a sting to the forehead" for teaching mysticism to gentiles. "Sting to the forehead" is possibly a euphemism for the death penalty, which legally could not be carried out under Roman rule, but handing a criminal to a foreign court was considered a "substitute" death penalty while under occupation, halachically speaking.
What was the name of the Galilean? And, based on Josephus there were lots of persons called Jesus

And I cannot find in the Gospels where Jesus taught mysticism to the Gentiles.
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Old 09-22-2009, 07:19 PM   #53
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Is that all you're looking for, history? Is that all you got from the book? Wow, seriously that is very insightful.
You are here in the Biblical Criticism and History forum

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Why would you believe anything you read in Urantia?
Because I choose to believe. I've read the book many times and it contains much truth. And I'm not talking about verifiable facts. When I say truth, I mean universal truths, things that I already knew and were confirmed upon reading the book.
If you know it's true, why do you need the book?

But what if you are mistaken, and your mistakes are just confirmed by this book of questionable value?

What then?
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If Exodus was a myth, perhaps the account of Jesus's crucifixion itself is a myth. Then the problem of his resurrection is a non-problem. Just another pattern of myth-making.
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You are here in the Biblical Criticism and History forum
I thought we were talking about the WHY not the WHEN. Isn't this thread titled "Why was Jesus Killed?"

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If you know it's true, why do you need the book?

But what if you are mistaken, and your mistakes are just confirmed by this book of questionable value?

What then?
Questionable value? Have you actually read the book?
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If Exodus was a myth, perhaps the account of Jesus's crucifixion itself is a myth. Then the problem of his resurrection is a non-problem. Just another pattern of myth-making.
You see, that's the problem. Something gets old and forgotten and all of a sudden it's a myth. This is just the ignorant way of forgetting the past, calling things Myths. One day, people are going to forget that George W. Bush was ever president and those that bring him up will be called myth makers.
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Well, Bush didn't rise from the dead or part the red sea.
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Well, Bush didn't rise from the dead or part the red sea.
Who says he didn't?
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I have a theory on this, which I have never read in the mainstream. I believe he was arrested and killed for teaching Jewish mysticism to gentiles. The Talmud contains an anecdote about a "Certain Galilean" who was killed "by a sting to the forehead" for teaching mysticism to gentiles. "Sting to the forehead" is possibly a euphemism for the death penalty, which legally could not be carried out under Roman rule, but handing a criminal to a foreign court was considered a "substitute" death penalty while under occupation, halachically speaking.
What was the name of the Galilean? And, based on Josephus there were lots of persons called Jesus

And I cannot find in the Gospels where Jesus taught mysticism to the Gentiles.
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"It happened that a Galilean once came to Babylon and was requested to lecture on metaphysics. The Galilean consented and began: I will interpret to you something in the style of R. Nehemiah. Meanwhile a wasp flew out of the wall, stung him on the Andiphi (forehead) and the Galilean died on the spot. It was said that he died a merited death."
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What was the name of the Galilean? And, based on Josephus there were lots of persons called Jesus

And I cannot find in the Gospels where Jesus taught mysticism to the Gentiles.
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"It happened that a Galilean once came to Babylon and was requested to lecture on metaphysics. The Galilean consented and began: I will interpret to you something in the style of R. Nehemiah. Meanwhile a wasp flew out of the wall, stung him on the Andiphi (forehead) and the Galilean died on the spot. It was said that he died a merited death."
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How many Galileans went to Babylon? And where in the NT DID Jesus lecture on metaphysics?

I thought Jesus of the NT was crucified. He was crucified by a wasp?

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