Originally Posted by JesusFollower

Sure, He is the beginning. He is the first cause. He holds the atoms together and keeps everything in balance to sustain life here. He is love and He is light. God is a spirit and not visible like the wind. You see His cause and effects but not Him.

Originally Posted by JesusFollower

So what about Jesus? Is He a liar, lunatic or Lord when He says, He is the only way to God?

Originally Posted by JesusFollower

There are many unanswered things about God but since I am not God I don't know all things.

Originally Posted by BioBeing

It seems that the task before us is to:

1. Proove Jesus said that, using sources other than the bible.

2. Prove there is a God

3. Prove that said God is reachable by any means

4. Prove that said God is the God reachable via Jesus

5. Prove that there is no other way to said God

Lets say we give you #1, that Jesus said it. We still have a long, long, long way to go to know if Jesus was telling the truth, don't we?

Originally Posted by Alethias

Thanks for the definition.
Problem is, how is your definition different that what a follower of Allah would say? How does it show me that god is in any way not a figment of your imagination?

I would say the Universe is the beginning, so by your definition the Universe is god. a First Cause is undefined. What is the "First Cause", exactly? how can their be a first cause?

He holds the atoms together and keeps everything in balance to sustain life here. Ok, now you're confusing me. By the first part of your definition the universe would be god. What you list here are physical properties of the universe. So god is nothing but physical properties of the universe? How can you worship something that is just a collection of physical properties of the universe?

On the rest of your definition, Light is a physical part of the universe, spirit is undefined. How is saying God is Light not contradictory with saying god is not visible?

Thanks in advance for your answers.

Alethias.

Originally Posted by BioBeing

It seems that the task before us is to:

1. Proove Jesus said that, using sources other than the bible.

2. Prove there is a God

3. Prove that said God is reachable by any means

4. Prove that said God is the God reachable via Jesus

5. Prove that there is no other way to said God

Lets say we give you #1, that Jesus said it. We still have a long, long, long way to go to know if Jesus was telling the truth, don't we?

Originally Posted by Mageth

Then it may be that "Jesus is the only Way to God" is not true, eh? There may be other ways to God that you don't know about.



Maybe no roads lead to God. Maybe there is no God.

Originally Posted by JesusFollower

Maybe your right, but I think He is the only way like He said. Mainly because of the fullfilled hundreds of Prophesies fortold about Him hundreds of years before His birth in the Old Testament.

Originally Posted by JesusFollower

I am so happy I have nothing to prove.:huh: The bible says that God has revealed Himself by the things that He made. Therefore, the evidence is everywhere. Wew you were going to make me tired with all 5 of those proves...I wouldn't get done until the next century.