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Old 01-27-2004, 09:33 AM   #51
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I would like to see how Noah would have coped with moose on board. Their digestive systems undergo changes from winter to summer in order to extract the maximum amount of nutrition from the change in food supply. In the summer they need a lot of water plants (containing salts) and green fodder. In the winter they feed on twigs. Moose will gorge on hay in the winter if they can find it but it is not nutritious for them at that time of the year. So...... did Noah lay in a supply of twigs and branches for the moose and beavers? That would take up a LOT of space, and it would be pretty heavy, too.
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That would take up a LOT of space, and it would be pretty heavy, too.
That's not heavy, that's my brother.

Aside from the weight of the food, and the animals, there's the tremendous amount of water than would be on board. Assuming a flawless construction, would a ship (boat?) with that amount of water in it still meet the buoyancy specs?
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Who knows! I'm just attacking the sheer volume aspect to try and dismiss the notions of morons who may, despite their delusions, have a good sense of math and science and basic geometry and volume scales. If I can just get one person to think about their beliefs with a bit of intelligence my somewhat pointless mission will be justified, at least for me
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Do not forget that Noah had to catch a pair of each fresh water fish species and plant life.

Should not add too much to the dimensional problem . . . they were all small fry and seedlings, of course. . . .

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Old 01-27-2004, 02:33 PM   #55
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That's not heavy, that's my brother.

Aside from the weight of the food, and the animals, there's the tremendous amount of water than would be on board. Assuming a flawless construction, would a ship (boat?) with that amount of water in it still meet the buoyancy specs?
Yes, according to Korean marine engineers. (S.W. Hong et al., “Safety investigation of Noah’s Ark in a Seaway”, CEN Technical Journal 8(1):26–36, 1994.

The ark wasn't built to be manuverable, it was built to float on water.
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Yes, according to Korean marine engineers. (S.W. Hong et al., “Safety investigation of Noah’s Ark in a Seaway”, CEN Technical Journal 8(1):26–36, 1994.

And everybody knows the Korean fleet of 450-foot wooden boats is a sight to behold!

The ark wasn't built to be manuverable, it was built to float on water.

Which it would do for maybe a day, before it sprang innumerable leaks and sank like a rock...

Or perhaps the animals survived by clinging to all those timbers that were left floating after the ark broke to pieces?
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Since the ark myth has been completely and utterly anihilated, a more important question is, why do fundies still believe in it? I honestly don't know how it's possible to believe it?? Any ideas, pray tell.
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And everybody knows the Korean fleet of 450-foot wooden boats is a sight to behold!
How do you think engineers test the stability of things? They use wind tubes and scale models to test skyscraper stability in high winds. Marine architects use model boats in facilities to test seaworthiness. They don't build a 450 foot boat, and then put it on water to see if it will hold up. Of course i'm sure you knew all this, but were just trying to be a smart arse like usual huh?



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Which it would do for maybe a day, before it sprang innumerable leaks and sank like a rock...
Why do you assume it would sink? Considering God is the one that told Noah how to build it, I think God knows enough about marine engineering to build a seaworthy boat.

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And as usual, I see you were trying to be a smart arse.

Magus55, please do remember to be civil
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The ark wasn't built to be manuverable, it was built to float on water.

Which it would do for maybe a day, before it sprang innumerable leaks and sank like a rock...

Or perhaps the animals survived by clinging to all those timbers that were left floating after the ark broke to pieces?
For 39 days and 39 nights...in the rain...that might explain why the world is so screwed up

Ellis: Because they're fundies. That's what they do, aside from telling us that we're going to hell.
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Since the ark myth has been completely and utterly anihilated, a more important question is, why do fundies still believe in it? I honestly don't know how it's possible to believe it?? Any ideas, pray tell.
Its only been annihilated in the mind of naturalistic scientists and atheists. Do you think the wisdom of man means much to me? (hint: no, it doesn't)
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