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Oh, you might do some of the things you listed. So do I. But not all Christians do, and many atheists do, and frankly I'm not convinced that Christians do it any more than atheists. And Christians don't follow the whole Gospel. That would be impossible and immoral, and you know perfectly well that's what I meant and that I'm right.
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06-25-2005, 04:47 PM
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I know, I know. Those Ay-rabs were responsible for the horror of 9/11. Like it or not. NOT ONE SINGLE ONE OF THE RELIGIOUS FUNDAMENTALISTS who flew those planes were Iraqi. 16 of the 19 were Saudi Arabians. So we turned our Christian cheek and have now virtually destroyed Iraq. It looks to me that a godly life can best be led by people who don't believe in god--Muslim or Christian. |
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06-25-2005, 04:59 PM
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Even Hollier Than Thou.
Hey guys I just had an idea ...
I think we've been going about this whole atheist/theist argument thing the wrong way ... Normal theist/atheist discussion: Theist: Believe in God because the bible says, blah, blah, blah ... Atheist: That's a load of bull because, blah, blah, blah ... Theist: Yes, but you are not taking the word of the Lord seriously, he is symbolicly trying to say, blah, blah blah ... We should try this next time: Theist: Believe in God because the bible says, blah, blah, blah ... Atheist: I agree, but I don't think you are taking it seriously enough, I think that we should do exactly what it says in there. I think you and I should pluck the eyes right out of our heads right now. Come on let's do it right now! Better to be blind than stumbled by sin ... look I can see that woman's ankles ... I saw you look at her too ... oh forgive us Lord! Come on let's do it! God is gonna think we are so cool for doing this... Well probably get a great room in heaven with an ensuite and a pool and everything ... Ready, 1, 2, 3, ... |
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06-25-2005, 05:01 PM
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06-25-2005, 05:09 PM
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At least she doesn't try to defend a loving god who enjoys watching people suffer, or an all-knowing god who makes us think we have free will. Her stuff is pretty much heaven and hell. Take it or leave it. Simple and straightforward. Refreshing in its naivete, and really unarguable because in the long run she admits she believes because she believes. Why fight it--except for entertainment purposes of course. In the meantime, sit back and wait for the Rapture. |
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06-25-2005, 05:38 PM
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Imagine a huge, steaming pile of shit. Now, some of the atoms in that pile of shit are the same atoms that make up food that you need to survive. Despite this, you do not want to eat the huge, steaming pile of shit, now do you? |
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06-25-2005, 06:43 PM
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Lets see, genocide and rape, yeah thats a good one. How about human sacrifice, yep there is another good one. What was I thinking? |
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06-25-2005, 07:46 PM
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Oh, fuck him. From http://www.rense.com/general20/billy.htm, though I've seen it elsewhere, like last year's "Stupid White Men" calender and pretty much every news story on the (then) newly-released nixon tapes:
Rev. Billy Graham openly voiced a belief that Jews control the American media, calling it a "stranglehold" during a 1972 conversation with President Richard Nixon, according to a tape of the Oval Office meeting released Thursday by the National Archives. �* "This stranglehold has got to be broken or the country's going down the drain," the nation's best-known preacher declared as he agreed with a stream of bigoted Nixon comments about Jews and their perceived influence in American life. �* "You believe that?" Nixon says after the "stranglehold" comment. �* "Yes, sir," Graham says. �* "Oh, boy," replies Nixon. "So do I. I can't ever say that but I believe it." �* "No, but if you get elected a second time, then we might be able to do something," Graham replies. Has a memory longer than two weeks, ---Ivan James |
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06-25-2005, 10:02 PM
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So what is so hard about the Gospel's? What part do you have trouble doing? Tell me what part I am having trouble following please, since you know so much about me. |
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06-25-2005, 10:15 PM
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These things are optional because they are politically impractical. Our "Christian President" does not have the luxury of "doing unto others as you would have them do unto you" because that would mean NOT bombing other countries and taking over their government, and it would also mean NOT ignoring friendly nations that come to us asking for help. Likewise, American Christians do not have the luxury of "love thy neighbor as you love yourself" because that would mean NOT opposing gay marriage and NOT choosing to tolerate people of different religions, races, sexual orientations and political views. These things you name are optional for Christians. By any standard theology, you are not in any way penalized for failing to do them, you are only rewarded (in heaven, of course) for succeeding. |
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