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Old 04-27-2007, 01:46 AM   #161
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Fortunately, that won't happen in either of our lifetimes. I wonder if you will seek help, or whether as you lay on your death bed breathing your last breaths, panic will set in as you realize you aren't the messiah after all, and fear of eternal punishment overwhelms your final moments.

Are you so sure you're the messiah that you're willing to risk this scenario?
Hi spamandham. It's either TRUE, or it's not. In the gospels is a parable of the prodigal son. A young son leaves his father's house to live a life of sin and sexual abandon. But he repents, and returns and his father, seeing him goes out to him and gives him the highest honor, and a new robe, "the best one" and a banquet. Elsewhere in the Bible the father's banquet for the son is the wedding feast, a reference to the "kingdom of the heavens." Is there a connection? Is this suggesting the prodigal son becomes the Messiah?

In the OT we find the messiah becoming king, illustrated by high-priest Joshua who is called "Sprout" a reference to a eunuch, one without branches. His clothes are befouled (Zech 3:1-5). He gets new "robes of state" just like the prodigal son.

I wonder if there's a connection here?

So yes. Either it's TRUE or not. We'll have to wait and see...

"I was too busy to check it out" is not considered a good enough excuse on Judgment Day, though.

God is VENGEFUL. Haven't you read that? "It's a FEARFUL thing to fall into the hands of the living God."

So for those who turn their nose up at him? He doesn't just feel sad and rejected and let you walk away. He blinds you, leads you to the edge of a cliff, and then Jesus comes up from behind and pushes you over the precipice.

You know, at one point I requested that God heat up Gehenna even hotter than it is. It just irritated me that the sinners wouldn't burst into flames until they hit the surface. If Gehenna were a lot hotter, they would burst into flames as soon as they were over the lake, long before they reached surface. I'm not sure if my request was was answered or not.

Lots of people walk away from God but they never see that speeding bus for some reason. :wave:

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then Jesus comes up from behind and pushes you over the precipice
cos that's the kind of guy he was

run for your lives

ETA - that's going to fstdt...do they have a section for 'messiahs say the darndest things'?
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God is VENGEFUL. Haven't you read that? "It's a FEARFUL thing to fall into the hands of the living God."
If that's true, then you'd better be fucking right about being the messiah, or you'll be sharing a brimstone with me. The book you worship doesn't have anything good to say about false prophets.

Are you willing to take that chance?

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So for those who turn their nose up at him? He doesn't just feel sad and rejected and let you walk away. He blinds you, leads you to the edge of a cliff, and then Jesus comes up from behind and pushes you over the precipice.
What an asshole you worship.

"A man must make himself as cruel as the god he worships." - Bertrand Russell

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You know, at one point I requested that God heat up Gehenna even hotter than it is. It just irritated me that the sinners wouldn't burst into flames until they hit the surface. If Gehenna were a lot hotter, they would burst into flames as soon as they were over the lake, long before they reached surface. I'm not sure if my request was was answered or not.
It seems Russell was right.

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Lots of people walk away from God but they never see that speeding bus for some reason. :wave:

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...and lot's of people wake up from the mindfuck called religion and realize they've been lied to their entire lives. :wave:
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ok, Lars, are you really a standup comic practicing your routine on us?

'Cause I think it's damn funny.
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ok, Lars, are you really a standup comic practicing your routine on us?

'Cause I think it's damn funny.
Can you believe what some poeple will fall for?

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Or are you just one of the messiahs whose sole job it is is to try and convince atheists that the pretty pictures seen in a bunch of clouds proves you're a messiah and that's all you're here for, because I must have missed that chapter and verse?
No. First God sends someone to tell them about these things to see who will believe based simply on God's written word. Then God shows up in person later at which point reality will be understood by everyone. That's the beauty of JUDGMENT DAY. The wicked come back, see God, see everything for what it really is, then they are put to death forever seeing beforehand what they will be missing out on -- the opportunity of a lifetime!

It will the the ANGUISH of knowing that everybody else was smart enough to figure out the right them except them... They die feeling they are the ultimate LOSER; which they will be.

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First God sends someone to tell them about these things to see who will believe based simply on God's written word.
How do we know that the Bible is God's written word rather than simply the work of men?

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The wicked come back, see God, see everything for what it really is, then they are put to death forever seeing beforehand what they will be missing out on -- the opportunity of a lifetime!
Once we're gone, it won't matter what we "missed out on". If a god brings me back just to say "i told you so", and then extinguishes me again, it will be no different from my perspective than if the first death is the final death. I'll no longer exist to care.
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Larsguy47: It will the the ANGUISH of knowing that everybody else was smart enough to figure out the right them except them... They die feeling they are the ultimate LOSER; which they will be.
Oh my god! What a beautiful expression of merciful love. My heart's going to break....damnit I promised I wouldn't cry!

Of course. How stupid of us all to actually apply the attributes cult members profess their gods possess.

But I guess it's all just our faults, right? I mean, here you are, giving us the means to our salvations, so, you know, fuck us if we're too stupid to take it, right?

"Come on, Dad. If these ingraits don't want eternal salvation then let's just go gather up all those...well, most of those....well, a comparative handful of those who do want our freely given gift of love and eternal bliss. By the way, did you see how excited Uncle Lou looked when you gave him the news? I swear I could see a little pre-cum glistening on his thorned donkey cock! What a bunch of LOSERS!"

CUE: Rapture
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Oh my god! What a beautiful expression of merciful love. My heart's going to break....damnit I promised I wouldn't cry!

Of course. How stupid of us all to actually apply the attributes cult members profess their gods possess.
You don't understand. You were already a victim of violence. Satan killed you in your mother's womb. You were aborted before you had a chance for life.

In order to save you, there has to be some pain and suffering and eventual death. That is, to SAVE Adam's children, they have to be born even though they will die and will have to come back after all of them are born over time, short of 6000 years. But rather than have not not go through this temporary pain and death, including the pain of your loved ones dying, you never would have been born. God decided you MUST BE BORN so you had a fighting chance for life Satan stole from you. You're blaming God for that incidental pain in your life that is the basis for you to be able to live.

Now some people "complain" and whimper because God isn't in the kitchen washing their dishes for them while they sit around and watch TV and order more microwave popcorn. Others, are extremely grateful for this wonderful second chance.

I, being the Christ, for my part, have requested that the lake of fire be heated up 100 times hotter so these poor, miserable people can be put out of their misery even sooner when I throw them to their "second death."

12 Kiss the son, that He may not become incensed
And YOU may not perish [from] the way,
For his anger flares up easily.
Happy are all those taking refuge in him.


Not that I'd tell anybody to "Kiss my ASSets, or die!" but, I'm versatile and if that's what the crowd wants, I can work it into the plan. No problem.

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INFORMED CONSENT, DISCLAIMER:

You know how when you are about to have a semi-risky medical procedure they give you an "informed consent" so you know what the score is? Well that's sort of like this. Just wanted to make sure everybody saw this "fine print" stipulation:

MATTHEW 12: 36 I tell YOU that every unprofitable saying that men speak, they will render an account concerning it on Judgment Day; 37 for by your words you will be declared righteous, and by your words you will be condemned.”

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