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Old 08-05-2004, 06:33 AM   #21
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This thread is rapidly descending into incivility.

Unless it rapidly improves in tone it is going to be locked.
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Old 08-05-2004, 06:35 AM   #22
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=lpetrich]And what are they, queser?
like i said ask mughal, or simply look it up on some islamic sites

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And queser, do you really think that Islamic zealots seriously care about whatever legal niceties you have in mind?
did i ever say i think that?

seperate what muslims do from what islam is if, you can or if you want to try to, though it seems you wont care to try , thats what i thik , though you could prove me wrong and i wont hold it against you

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And when was anyone ever executed in public for killing an apostate in an un-Islamic manner? Yes, executed in public.
and what is the relevance here? i cannot account for what muslims do , this could have nothing or something to do with islam , see above comment again

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This seems like the "No True Scotsman" fallacy.
and what is that?
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Old 08-05-2004, 06:39 AM   #23
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This thread is rapidly descending into incivility.

Unless it rapidly improves in tone it is going to be locked.
and who would the culprits be? it would certainly be interesting to know

though i would ask please not to lock it since perhaps one ex muslim might just want to post

that would please me to read the story
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Dear friends, here are some links as to what should happen to muslim apostates, what has happened to them and what is happening to them.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/apostasy.htm
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamen...i/084.sbt.html
http://www.barnabasfund.org/Apostasy/Consequences.htm
http://www.radiodirectory.com/usstor...591020689.html
http://www.muhammadanism.com/Governm...apostasy_1.htm
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=9000
http://www.bibletopics.com/biblestudy/96a.htm

One can also look into amnesty international reports as well as international human rights commission reports.

regards and best wishes.
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Old 08-05-2004, 11:22 AM   #25
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and who would the culprits be? it would certainly be interesting to know

though i would ask please not to lock it since perhaps one ex muslim might just want to post

that would please me to read the story
Instead of acting like an irate curmudgeon, why don't you also ask the question on ex-muslims boards -- for example, Faith Freedom. That board has been infested by right-winging nuts and christian fundies playing on ex-muslims antagonism toward Islam to bash it to their hearts content, but ex-muslims don't fall for that and are usually mostly atheists. If you honestly want to know the stories of ex-muslims, do go there and post the same question. IIDB is a superb place, but you wouldn't find many ex-muslims here.
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Old 08-05-2004, 03:25 PM   #26
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It's not polite to badger a member into telling their story if they aren't particularly keen on it. Mughal has remained very polite and respectful throughout this thread as he always is.

I would have pm'd him personally and asked him if he wouldn't mind telling me his story. If he didn't want to I'd respect that. I wouldn't fire into him on a public board and demand to hear it then tell him he's on ignore publically because I couldn't respect his decision. I'm sure the guy has his reasons he doesn't owe anyone an explanation.

Mughal thanks for all the links I'm going to read them later.
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. IIDB is a superb place, but you wouldn't find many ex-muslims here.
thats why i started this thread, to hear the story of those individuals


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It's not polite to badger a member into telling their story if they aren't particularly keen on it. Mughal has remained very polite and respectful throughout this thread as he always is.

I would have pm'd him personally and asked him if he wouldn't mind telling me his story. If he didn't want to I'd respect that. I wouldn't fire into him on a public board and demand to hear it then tell him he's on ignore publically because I couldn't respect his decision. I'm sure the guy has his reasons he doesn't owe anyone an explanation.

Mughal thanks for all the links I'm going to read them later.
where is the badger? do i have a right to post an OP or what?

you going to ban me for my OP or for saying i will ignore those who i think are not answering the OP and loading this thread full of their propoganda

my my freedom of speech results in all this attention. just answer the OP

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Since no ex-muslims have actually offered to take up the request in the OP, and since this thread has degenerated into bickering, I'm locking this thread.

If any ex-muslims do wish to post their testimony then they can feel free to start a new thread with it.
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