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apocalypsecow · 10-10-2004, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Deacon Doubtmonger

I have to ask: could this possibly have been intended as a children's record??? The sing-songy rhyming seems to imply so. It wouldn't surprise me to catch a fundy adult listening to one; "except ye become as a little child" and all that ...

Oh, Carmen's fun for the whole family....

sodium · 10-10-2004, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by apocalypsecow

It's a spoken-word piece. Carmen does a great number of them (*used* to be a fan....

)

So, is there freestyle Jazz in the background, or something. I'm imagining kind of a beatnik thing.

Nic Tamzek · 10-10-2004, 02:22 PM

Oh my, that is weird.

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The size, position and angle of the earth is a scientific phenomenon to see.
A few degrees closer to the sun we'd disintegrate, a few degrees further, we'd freeze.

In addition to the other points mentioned,

1. Distances aren't measured in "degrees" (perhaps he meant "percent")
2. The Earth's orbit isn't perfectly circular (Venus is much closer):

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Minimum Distance from Sun: 146 million km (91 million miles)
Maximum Distance from Sun: 152 million km (94.5 million miles)

source

3. This difference is ~4.2%. That would be the amount of variability in one year.

4. Venus and Mercury haven't disintegrated, and Mars isn't (or at least isn't always) completely frozen.

apocalypsecow · 10-10-2004, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sodium

So, is there freestyle Jazz in the background, or something. I'm imagining kind of a beatnik thing.

No...it's fully-orchestrated...Badly fully orchestrated, but fully orchestrated none the less...You'd have to download it. It's been ages since i've heard it...

Azathoth · 10-11-2004, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazyharp81602

Hey There!

Have you ever heard of Apologetix?...

(snip)

...Hope there's enough to discuss here.
See you all later.

Crazyharp81602

Apologetix? Sounds like a Gaulish fundamentalist.

I'd never even heard of bands slipping creationism into their songs, but I'm guessing they must suck pretty hard. As a matter of fact, I'd be willing to wager, not having heard any such creationist songs, that a band putting out this kind of thing is probably putting out a fair load of crap that's non creationist related, as well.

djmullen · 10-11-2004, 11:09 PM

Carmen:

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It simply boggles the mind to think that the stars will rotate with such exact precision that it's true. That the atomic clock with an error factor of less than three seconds per millenium is set by the way we move.

This is multi-wrong. First, atomic clocks are much more accurate than the earth's rotation which speeds up and slows down irregularly, probably due to magma moving around inside it. The earth's rotation is also slowing down due to tidal effects from the moon.

Second, the current accuracy of the best atomic clocks is now about 1 second in six million years, a tad bit better than Carmen's three seconds per millenium.

As for the stars rotating bit, I really do wonder if Carmen believes that the stars rotate around the earth once a day. I think that would be Biblical...

Xeluan · 10-12-2004, 04:24 AM

I'm confused. I though AC/DC settled all this back in 1977 with their version of the creation myth, Let There Be Rock.

Zephyr · 10-12-2004, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by apocalypsecow

It's a spoken-word piece. Carmen does a great number of them (*used* to be a fan....

)

*points and laughs*

You know, even when I was a fundamentalist YEC I couldn't stomach that freak and his cheesy "music." Angry melodramatic preaching with instruments in the background, broken only by occasional attempts at rhythm and melody - no thanks!

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Xeluan Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Some Pub In East Gosford, Australia Posts: 831	I'm confused. I though AC/DC settled all this back in 1977 with their version of the creation myth, Let There Be Rock.

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