sugarhitman

Roman Catholicism is Paganism in Christian garb....and anti-semitism arose from its ranks (in reality anti-semitism is purely a Pagan invention)....Roman Catholicism is not Biblical Christianity. Hitler was a member of the Thule society a deeply Pagan occult society....Occult Paganism hate the Jews and the Judeo-Christan religions because Paganism was correctly viewed as evil by the Jews and became less influential because of Judaisim.


Judaisim is filled with writings of Jesus .

Half-Life

How come human morality is kinder than Gods?

We humans respect other people's beliefs (for the most part) and don't incinerate Buddhists or hindus because they disbelieve in Jesus. We respect them.

Why doesn't god respect them? Why does he hate them so much that he wants to burn them forever?

Also, there are many passages in the Bible where god explicitly tells people how to properly beat their slaves.

Why are we ignoring "God's infallible perfect unchanging word" today by abolishing slavery?

Why didn't god tell them "Thou shall not have slaves." Why did he freely endorse slavery and animal sacrifices?

The answer to why we ignore "god's word" should be obvious to you. - Because nobody really cares.

Nero's Boot

Hmmm.

*strokes beard thoughtfully, puffs on pipe*

I had no idea Martin Luther was a pagan!

--huh! Every day, I learn something new NB

Mageth

I don't do it because I consider it wrong, regardless of what God might or might not think about it.

For some reason, I think a good, moral, wise God would find my motivation for not incinerating Buddhists, Hindus, or anyone else more pleasing than yours.

Well, what you say is not true. So there.

My Bible says this:

James 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, [and] to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Mageth

And Protestantism is an offshoot of Roman Catholicism, err, I mean Paganism in Christian garb. SO Protestantism is Paganism.

- OR -

Your above assertions are pure, unadulterated, unsupportale bullshit.

Jews would strongly disagree, and accuse Christianity (the whole lot) of being a false religion.

He said, she said....get it?

Salam

No one knows for how long they gonna suffer because of the lives they took unjustly. Allah knows best.

I don't remember mentioning Buddhists going to hell.

For the sake of their victims and the families of their victims who didn't see justice in this life.

Half-Life

But if I can forgive hitler and Bin laden 8despite how hard it may be), why can't Allah?

Am I nicer than Allah? granted I don't condone hitler's or Bin Laden's actions by any means but I still can forgive them.

Why can't Allah?

Salam

If they just ask sincerely for it, it will be granted to them. I don't think Jews forgave Hitler, or Americans forgave Bin Laden, even if they asked them for forgiveness they won't forgave them. Who's nicer now?

Mageth

Sorry, I don't agree that placating the desires of some people to see someone else suffer for wrongs committed by intentionally causing the target of those desires to suffer is morally good, nor do I see it as bringing "good" to the victims. Heck, the thought of someone else suffering pain just so I can derive some vengeful satisfaction is morally repugnant to me, as is the thought that i might somehow "benefit" from such suffering. I can't, of course, speak for anyone else.

Would it not be enough to simply annihilate the target, and let the victims know that the target is annihilated and not enjoying heaven? What good comes of causing the target to suffer? Again, I do not think it is good that it would be done for the "sake of the victim." Indeed, I find the notion morally repugnant.

So, no, I do not accept your reason for causing or allowing suffering in Hell as one that morally justifies said suffering.

Half-Life

Also sugarhitman, why can't Jesus just show up to all the non-believers today? This would save a lot of people from Hell.

if you argue that our "free will is destroyed" if God shows up to us, read this following passage:

And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,

2And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.

3And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

4And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

5And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

6And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

7And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

8And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus.

9And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink.

So, it appears Saul was preaching against Christ and didn't believe in him. So, naturally Jesus shows up to him.

Was Saul's free will destroyed here?

if not, why doesn't he appear today?

if his free will was destroyed, why did god show up to him if it violates free will?