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Jeffrey Gibson · 04-02-2008, 09:10 AM

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Which, time and again, has been shown to be true.

Define god.

And what does this question have to do with determining what biblical texts say?

Jeffrey

As usual, a question to Jeffrey is met not with a answer, but rather questions for the inquirer.

"Define 'God"" is not a question.

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I'm not trying to pick a fight here and I've actually grown to like you even though you can be rather difficult at times.
Why is this such a guarded secret with you? Help me understand.

How can I answer a question when what it is you are asking of me is unclear?

So I ask again, define "god".

Jeffrey

aa5874 · 04-02-2008, 09:15 AM

"Agnostic" --- a person who thinks that nothing can be known about the existence or nature of God.

So, if you ask an agnostic about God, it is likely that he will not know anything about God and will ask you what you know about God.

Chili · 04-02-2008, 09:19 AM

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I once inquired about the nature of Gibsons agnosticism and instead of receiving an answer I was instead told I didn't know what agnostics believe.

By definition agnostic is opposite to gnostic which much exist before agnostic can be conceived to exist.

So therefore it can be said that an agnostic does not know what he is talking about but does know that he is talking about something that is real without knowing its essence.

From here the agnostic becomes a believer with an opinion and an unbeliever to the same extent that he holds a wrong opinion as doubter (this would be since faith cannot be conceived to exist without doubt or the agnostic would be gnostic).

Believers are divided in 3 main categories from informed believer in the middle to inspired believer above and inspired doubter below.

So according to this an agnostic is an inspired doubter and the evil only knows what they believe.

Chili · 04-02-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by aa5874

"Agnostic" --- a person who thinks that nothing can be known about the existence or nature of God.

So, if you ask an agnostic about God, it is likely that he will not know anything about God and will ask you what you know about God.

How did Cyril of Alexandria's put this again: "Never ask a goat humper if it felt good?" (Sermon 117).

Jeffrey Gibson · 04-02-2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chili

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Originally Posted by Fenton Mulley

I once inquired about the nature of Gibsons agnosticism and instead of receiving an answer I was instead told I didn't know what agnostics believe.

By definition agnostic is opposite to gnostic which much exist before agnostic can be conceived to exist.

So therefore it can be said that an agnostic does not know what he is talking about but does know that he is talking about something that is real without knowing its essence.

From here the agnostic becomes a believer with an opinion and an unbeliever to the same extent that he holds a wrong opinion as doubter (this would be since faith cannot be conceived to exist without doubt or the agnostic would be gnostic).

Believers are divided in 3 main categories from informed believer in the middle to inspired believer above and inspired doubter below.

So according to this an agnostic is an inspired doubter and the evil only knows what they believe.

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Jeffrey

squiz · 04-02-2008, 10:02 AM

I am more interested in the "reverant" part of Jeffrey's Basic Beliefs.

Jeffrey Gibson · 04-02-2008, 10:12 AM

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I am more interested in the "reverant" part of Jeffrey's Basic Beliefs.

And I'm interested in knowing why anyone would want to be named/called "squiz". But how does that -- and your interest in what "reverent" means -- have any relevance in the matter of determining what ancient authors said and/or whether claims made here about what they said and believed have any merit?

Jeffrey

Chili · 04-02-2008, 10:12 AM

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I am more interested in the "reverant" part of Jeffrey's Basic Beliefs.

It was called witchcraft then ("You senseless Galatians"! Who has cast a spell over you . . . ?" -3:1), and is called "New Age" today.

. . . or should I just call it protestant.

Jeffrey Gibson · 04-02-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chili

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I am more interested in the "reverant" part of Jeffrey's Basic Beliefs.

It was called witchcraft then ("You senseless Galatians"! Who has cast a spell over you . . . ?" -3:1), and is called "New Age" today.

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Amaleq13 · 04-02-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by aa5874

"Agnostic" --- a person who thinks that nothing can be known about the existence or nature of God.

So, if you ask an agnostic about God, it is likely that he will not know anything about God and will ask you what you know about God.

Not a difficult concept, is it? :huh:

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04-02-2008, 09:15 AM	#32
aa5874 Contributor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: the fringe of the caribbean Posts: 18,988	"Agnostic" --- a person who thinks that nothing can be known about the existence or nature of God. So, if you ask an agnostic about God, it is likely that he will not know anything about God and will ask you what you know about God.

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squiz Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Munich Germany Posts: 434	I am more interested in the "reverant" part of Jeffrey's Basic Beliefs.

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