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Old 12-06-2004, 10:07 AM   #41
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Man would NOT create a source about a universal God and invent stories like what happened with those children. Man would not invent a source that has the Deity ordering the deaths of every living thing in a certain city.
As others have pointed out, mythology from around the world does in fact contain stories like this. Diety-inspired murder is nothing new or exclusive to Christianity.

One would hope, however, that Christianity would be above doing what every other god has done. No such luck, obviously.
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Old 12-06-2004, 03:41 PM   #42
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The issue is the OP:

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=107862

We can argue the previous points of those who oppose me IF somebody accepts the challenge of post #1/OP.

Once again, any takers ?

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I think I get what you're going for here. You think you have a legitimate explanation for the passage you quoted in OP #1, so you want someone to contest it? Believe me, it has been successfully contested. See the LIbrary section of this site for complete refutations of any apologetics explanations for this passage.

If this isn't your reason for repeatedly referring to your OP, then further explanation is need (for me).

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Old 12-06-2004, 04:05 PM   #43
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It is also worth noting that Gene Scott has lost faith in God, and can no longer be considered a Christian.
Now I see where you got this thing about Dr. Scott not being a christian.

The content of the article is 95 percent false.

Because Dr. Scott is good friends with the Chandler family he has decided not to sue the Times.

Watanabe is a well known atheist reporter who gained 15 minutes of fame when she printed her "The Exodus never happened" bias under the guise of objective reporting some time ago.

Dr. Scott never claimed to be a faith healer.

Dr. Scott nor anyone from his church ever spoke to the Times.

Dr. Scott did not have surgery for cancer.

I attend his church - I know.

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Old 12-06-2004, 04:10 PM   #44
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Dr Gene ScottĀ® is a flamboyant, cigar-smoking, televangelist with notable fund raising abilities. (More about him here and here. His PhD is from Stanford in "Philosophies of Education," from 1957.
Those two links are tabloid rants produced by enemies.

Anyone can alter video and photos and print total lies.

Dr. Scott and his research and his position as the eminent Bible scholar in the world enrages persons who are jealous and cannot refute him.

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Old 12-06-2004, 04:23 PM   #45
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Dr. Scott and his research and his position as the eminent Bible scholar in the world enrages persons who are jealous and cannot refute him.

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It easy to not be refuted when one refuses to publish in Theological Journals. And since we've already been several rounds on "the eminent Bible scholar in the world", whatever. Ah that's right it was Benny Hin/Han who you mentioned steeling from him if I remember right... I think several here asked a half a dozen times before, but just for giggles why not once again ask: Eminent to whom; what organizations/scholars recognize his leadership, scholarship, et.al.? Yep sounds irrefutable all right... :down:
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Watanabe is a well known atheist reporter who gained 15 minutes of fame when she printed her "The Exodus never happened" bias under the guise of objective reporting some time ago.

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I can't let this pass.

Teresa Watanabe is a very pro-religion reporter at the LA Times who can be depended on to report positive heart-warming stories about every religious group in LA (except atheists). She describes herself here as a "non-practicing Christian."

Her piece on the Exodus is reprinted here. You can see that she is reporting only on the reaction of various Jewish groups to a prominent rabbi's sermons on the issue.
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Back to the Hitler front...I would never defend Hitler's faith either direction. That's between his corpes and any potential mythical maker by my reading of the Xian canon. My questions were towards your logic in automatically decided his fate based on what appears to be some unexplained reasoning.
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By your logic what does that make Augustine, Calvin and a host of others? More atheists? Or what of every anglo-saxon who participated in the genocide against the peoples living in what we now call the United States? Does it have to be elevated to genocide to make one a default atheist? Or does being a murderer get you there as well?
I find this a reasonable question. Can you explain why one mass murderer is godly and one isn't? Or at what point does doing bad things make one an atheist?
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I can't let this pass.

Teresa Watanabe is a very pro-religion reporter at the LA Times who can be depended on to report positive heart-warming stories about every religious group in LA (except atheists). She describes herself here as a "non-practicing Christian."

Her piece on the Exodus is reprinted here. You can see that she is reporting only on the reaction of various Jewish groups to a prominent rabbi's sermons on the issue.
I see personal bias in the story.

"Scholars have known for years .....we try to break the bad news gently"

Watanabe accepted the above quote to speak for all scholars because it suits her atheism.

I won't agrue with you because you called Dr. Scott a "televangelist" which divulges your hate and made up mind.

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The issue is WHY would God allow the record of the Prophet cursing the children and their horrible deaths ?

God could of omitted this event and nobody would ever know.

The point is:

IF God will keep His word to the hurt of children then how much more will He keep His word to us based on promises via His Son's blood ?

Thats why God recorded the bears killing the children.

GOOD OR BAD WHATEVER GOD SAYS WILL HAPPEN.

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It easy to not be refuted when one refuses to publish in Theological Journals. And since we've already been several rounds on "the eminent Bible scholar in the world", whatever. Ah that's right it was Benny Hin/Han who you mentioned steeling from him if I remember right... I think several here asked a half a dozen times before, but just for giggles why not once again ask: Eminent to whom; what organizations/scholars recognize his leadership, scholarship, et.al.? Yep sounds irrefutable all right... :down:
Obviously it is arguable.

Dr. Scott is the worlds leading authority in greek, hebrew, arabic, aramaic, syriac, ethiopic mss and their translations.

He can by memory teach what any of the mss say and translate it into english.

I don't know of any one in the know who denies Dr. Scott's position as eminent.

Dr. Scott is not a writer.

He is an oral teacher.

This exposes your implication that he "refuses" to publish to be very misleading.

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