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Old 02-20-2005, 06:47 PM   #11
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most of this book has little to do with opinion... it's really a historical overview of biblical writings placed in context...

makes you look at the bible from a very different angle... which is why i don't expect many christians will have courage to read it
I have courage enough to read it.

I just hope I have enough money to. :rolling:
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They argue (IIRC - it's been a bit and I've read other works since then...) that the character of Jesus was mythical and based upon pagan deities. They start off with some assumptions (esp on an early origin of gnostic beliefs) and take it from there. I think they relate the story of Jesus as allegory from a Jewish-Pagan mystery religion that got subverted by those who believed that the myths were literally true.

I may have to read it again. I remember thinking that they had some interesting points and arguments, but it all seemed to be based upon some dubious assumptions that I do not think they provided enough evidence for. Still, it certainly encourages asking questions (at least for me) and stimulated again my interest in mythology.
I must admit, after reading The Jesus Mysteries, that I was left thinking that their theories were plausible - but not that they presented enough evidence to show that their theories were probable.
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I repeat - The Jesus Mysteries is a very different sort of book from Callahan's Secret Origins of the Bible. This thread is supposed to be about the latter.
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Is that the same kind of courage required to read Freke and Gandy's "Jesus Mysteries"?

Here is the Editorial Review for "Secret Origins":

• Clearly written and easily understandable by the lay reader.
• Thoroughly researched: author's points are backed by references in the writings of acknowledged scholars.
• Special features of the book: lavishly illustrated with multiple images in each illustration that show at a glance the mythic themes paralleling the bible.

This book demonstrates that the stories and themes of the Bible were part of the great mythic systems of the ancient world by using comparative mythology, tell tale verses in the Bible and archaeology. The abstract God of modern monotheistic Judaism, Christianity and Islam is a comparatively recent creation.

In later times the myth of a messianic deliverer was combined with that of the pagan god-man who suffered a horrible, excruciating death but was physically resurrected to produce the Christ myth.
Is this supposed to be new stuff, I've been reading this for yrs.
Based partly in fact, its put together to form a conspiracy.
Like the davinci code duz.
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Is this supposed to be new stuff, I've been reading this for yrs.
Based partly in fact, its put together to form a conspiracy.
Like the davinci code duz.
Hi Jonesie, could you please clarify as to whether you have actually already read Callahan's book 'The Secret Origin of The Bible' or was your post just a general critique of 'this genre' of book (although you're actually just assuming what sort of book it is)?

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Old 02-24-2005, 07:52 AM   #16
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Is this supposed to be new stuff, I've been reading this for yrs.
Based partly in fact, its put together to form a conspiracy.
Like the davinci code duz.
I've read the book... it's a simple, if long and boring, comparative analysis of early christian and jewish religions in context with contemporary practices by other civilizations most of which were far more advanced, the end result of which is that it exposes it's beginings, it's practices and it's superstitions with the obvious conclusion that none were original or unique to it.

Only a conspiracy theorist would see a conspiracy theory in this book.
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I have courage enough to read it.

I just hope I have enough money to. :rolling:
I'll even pay for the postage...
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I wonder how many christians have the courage to read it through?
Some books do require courage to read all the way through: the sort of courage that can defeat the "I'm sooo bored I'm afraid that I'm going to rupture something the next time I yawn" feeling.

All the best,

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Old 02-24-2005, 09:22 AM   #19
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Some books do require courage to read all the way through: the sort of courage that can defeat the "I'm sooo bored I'm afraid that I'm going to rupture something the next time I yawn" feeling.

All the best,

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Courage is confronting the unknown when it might shatter your belief system... but then you knew that didn't you?

The best to you as well
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I'll even pay for the postage...
I thought only Christians did this sort of thing. Aren't you suppose to be eating kittens? :Cheeky:
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