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lunachick · 03-23-2004, 01:43 AM

Actually, I can almost relate to Cojana's last post. Not exactly, but I did have a trip once and found myself in the bathroom mirror! Like, really in the mirror. The major difference with our experiences, though, is that Cojana interpreted it as having some kinda heavy religious significance and I interpreted mine as interesting chemistry.

Good enough concept, though, Cojana - could be a fun idea for an off-beat film.

Cojana · 03-23-2004, 05:35 AM

Luna chick, your in error lady about my trip as religious significant to me, I'm not a religious man, but I have been privy to God belief all my life, the Ubiquitous character given God was in my view one way to explain my mitosis, I wish I could describe the phenomena close enough for people to grasp the occurrence realistically but the only way to really concieve the magnitude, are that you must have the phenomena occur to you, Welt, sir, if it had happened to you, you'd want to tell it every chance you get too, you don't split into two you,s everyday,!!

Corona688 · 03-23-2004, 06:36 AM

argument from drugs again?

sweep · 03-23-2004, 07:07 AM

agumentum balcksabbuthum:

Goin' home late last night
Suddenly I got a fright
Yeah, I looked through a window and suprise what I saw:
A fairy with boots was dancin' with a dwarf
All right now!

Yeah, Fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me
Yeah, I saw it, I saw it, I tell you no lies
Yeah, fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me
I saw it, I saw it with my own two eyes
Ohh, right now!

Yeah, Fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me
Yeah, I saw it, I saw it, I tell you no lies
Yeah, Fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me
I saw it, I saw it with my own two eyes
Allright now!

So I went to the doctor to see what he would give me
He said, "Son, son, you've gone too far,
'cause smokin' and trippin' is all that you do."

Yeahhhhhh!

now, where did I put that bowl?

Cojana · 03-23-2004, 11:55 AM

Sweep,sir you are way off reality to what occurred to me,if you don't believe me, fine, it only bothers me that you don;t, but your implication of drugs being the catalist as if all I had to do was get drugged, and I could split in two, Man!,how I wish you were right, if it was as you think, I'de be with a pipe in my hand,drugged out talking to myself,literaly, two me's talking to one another, with the same brain,of course, Sweeps you don't know How I wish you were right, I was 17 when it happened, I tried for 45 years to duplicate mitosis, if someone garanteed eating dogshit would do it, I would try it, you'll never see anything better then yourself by yourself, I feel triumphant over you, you'll never know,!! but pissed off cause I'm the only one to know what you missed,!

4th Generation Atheist · 03-23-2004, 01:50 PM

Cojana: not to judge, I am only posting here out of concern:

Please be careful where you get your pot.

If it interests you, I am not anti-drug use on principle, though I don't use myself out of concern for my own physical/medical safety; and I am not a legalization "activist" though I do think legalization would be a better idea than the current "war". However, be sure your pot doesn't have anything else in it, get it from a trusted source, and don't mix it with any meds you get from a doctor.

Just out of concern...

ju'iblex · 03-23-2004, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 4th Generation Atheist
Please be careful where you get your pot.

from recollection last time he told the story, he actually mentioned hitting his head on something as he fell over. So i imagine his experience was the result of concussion and pot simultaneously which i think explains the double vision.

not to mention Cojana has mentioned that he's taken far heavier shit which may have fucked up his brain chemistry from chronic use.

Cojana · 03-23-2004, 06:53 PM

How convenient for your recall to favor your cynicysim, you remembered my saying I hit my head on the bowl,but you conveniently forgot to mention that I said it was my first time ever to try pot, I was 17 mister, I wanted to see what pot was like, let me tell you no one I know has had the reaction I had,as a matter lof fact everyone I've told, just shakes its head in disbelief, at first it made me angry,even kicked some ass over it,but as my mind matured I begun to doubt it myself,except that I can close my eyes, and I can see myself looking at myself,confirmation that it did happen, thats pretty unique,don't you think,? close your eyes and see yourself looking at yourself, try it,! can't do it eh,? heh,heh, I certainly can,!!

Godot · 03-23-2004, 09:04 PM

Cojana, you really are a strange duck, my man.

Being able to see yourself looking at yourself makes you are far better man than I.

Weltall · 03-23-2004, 11:04 PM

And as was pointed out the first time, drugs can make you think that you experienced something that really occured solely within your mind. The fact that it was your first experience with marajuana only makes it harder to believe that you had some sort of transcendent experience. Can you see that we have good reasons for our skepticism?

03-23-2004, 05:35 AM	#22
Cojana Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Reseda, California Posts: 651	no religious significant Luna chick, your in error lady about my trip as religious significant to me, I'm not a religious man, but I have been privy to God belief all my life, the Ubiquitous character given God was in my view one way to explain my mitosis, I wish I could describe the phenomena close enough for people to grasp the occurrence realistically but the only way to really concieve the magnitude, are that you must have the phenomena occur to you, Welt, sir, if it had happened to you, you'd want to tell it every chance you get too, you don't split into two you,s everyday,!!

03-23-2004, 07:07 AM	#24
sweep Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: sugar factory Posts: 873	iwanttobewellagain agumentum balcksabbuthum: Goin' home late last night Suddenly I got a fright Yeah, I looked through a window and suprise what I saw: A fairy with boots was dancin' with a dwarf All right now! Yeah, Fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me Yeah, I saw it, I saw it, I tell you no lies Yeah, fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me I saw it, I saw it with my own two eyes Ohh, right now! Yeah, Fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me Yeah, I saw it, I saw it, I tell you no lies Yeah, Fairies wear boots and you gotta believe me I saw it, I saw it with my own two eyes Allright now! So I went to the doctor to see what he would give me He said, "Son, son, you've gone too far, 'cause smokin' and trippin' is all that you do." Yeahhhhhh! now, where did I put that bowl?

03-23-2004, 11:55 AM	#25
Cojana Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Reseda, California Posts: 651	you definately don't get it, sweep,... Sweep,sir you are way off reality to what occurred to me,if you don't believe me, fine, it only bothers me that you don;t, but your implication of drugs being the catalist as if all I had to do was get drugged, and I could split in two, Man!,how I wish you were right, if it was as you think, I'de be with a pipe in my hand,drugged out talking to myself,literaly, two me's talking to one another, with the same brain,of course, Sweeps you don't know How I wish you were right, I was 17 when it happened, I tried for 45 years to duplicate mitosis, if someone garanteed eating dogshit would do it, I would try it, you'll never see anything better then yourself by yourself, I feel triumphant over you, you'll never know,!! but pissed off cause I'm the only one to know what you missed,!

03-23-2004, 06:53 PM	#28
Cojana Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Reseda, California Posts: 651	how convenient, Lex How convenient for your recall to favor your cynicysim, you remembered my saying I hit my head on the bowl,but you conveniently forgot to mention that I said it was my first time ever to try pot, I was 17 mister, I wanted to see what pot was like, let me tell you no one I know has had the reaction I had,as a matter lof fact everyone I've told, just shakes its head in disbelief, at first it made me angry,even kicked some ass over it,but as my mind matured I begun to doubt it myself,except that I can close my eyes, and I can see myself looking at myself,confirmation that it did happen, thats pretty unique,don't you think,? close your eyes and see yourself looking at yourself, try it,! can't do it eh,? heh,heh, I certainly can,!!

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03-23-2004, 01:43 AM	#21
lunachick Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NZ Posts: 7,895	Actually, I can almost relate to Cojana's last post. Not exactly, but I did have a trip once and found myself in the bathroom mirror! Like, really in the mirror. The major difference with our experiences, though, is that Cojana interpreted it as having some kinda heavy religious significance and I interpreted mine as interesting chemistry. Good enough concept, though, Cojana - could be a fun idea for an off-beat film.

03-23-2004, 06:36 AM	#23
Corona688 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Hiding from Julian ;) Posts: 5,368	argument from drugs again?

03-23-2004, 01:50 PM	#26
4th Generation Atheist Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Tower of Ecthelion...by the Starbuck's Posts: 1,815	Cojana: not to judge, I am only posting here out of concern: Please be careful where you get your pot. If it interests you, I am not anti-drug use on principle, though I don't use myself out of concern for my own physical/medical safety; and I am not a legalization "activist" though I do think legalization would be a better idea than the current "war". However, be sure your pot doesn't have anything else in it, get it from a trusted source, and don't mix it with any meds you get from a doctor. Just out of concern...

03-23-2004, 09:04 PM	#29
Godot Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Calgary Posts: 1,335	Cojana, you really are a strange duck, my man. Being able to see yourself looking at yourself makes you are far better man than I.

03-23-2004, 11:04 PM	#30
Weltall Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 3,283	And as was pointed out the first time, drugs can make you think that you experienced something that really occured solely within your mind. The fact that it was your first experience with marajuana only makes it harder to believe that you had some sort of transcendent experience. Can you see that we have good reasons for our skepticism?

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