cjack

and then, the deafening silence....

Magdlyn

I thought Adam and Eve were not real humans (just like us) yet. It is said they are in a garden of delight on the land, but was it really our earth? Or some kind of mystical wonderland?

God might have made them skin because they didn't have it yet. They are said to have flesh and bones but what about skin?

They first made themselves clothes of leaves. Then "God" made them clothing of skin.

After that, did they continue to wear skin clothing (like cavepeople) , or go back to leaf aprons? Or suddenly know how to spin flax? Because the tradition goes everyone was a vegetarian until after Noah.

So, did God have them keep killing animals as sacrifices from then on, as you claim he did? Or not? Let's follow this out to the end.

I do not see any sacrifice until after Noah. Were Adam and Eve's "sin"
and that of their descendants, atoned by God's killing of those animals used for couture? Perhaps the atonement value of the killing of that one cow or whatever, sort of wore out by Noah's time and neccesitated the flood.

I am just wandering around the implications of this. I had never heard the idea before, that God made the skin clothes on purpose as a remission of Adam's sin. I thought it took Jesus to atone for Adam's sin much much later. Isn't that what Paul said?

DISSIDENT AGGRESSOR

I can guarantee, 100%, that you can't back-up your claim. Perfection cannot create imperfection.


Matthew 24:11
"Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many.

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Let's keep it civil in here. Personal insults are not acceptable in this discussion, nor should they be. Biblical verses should be used as information to back up and arguement, not to create one. I understand that this is an emotional debate, but let's do our best to keep the focus on the discussion and not each other.

Thanks,
Tangie

Sauron

Except that Columbus, etc. didn't claim to be the son of God. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

Sauron

Except that there is no evidence that the animals that Jehovah killed served as remission for anything. They apparently only served as clothing.

dado

a passage from Hebrews to justify a reading from Genesis? oy. here we go again with the completely incorrect mixing of c'ian text with jewish text. the idea of blood sacrifice being *necessary* for "remission" is a c'ian one, not a jewish.

dado

which is further proof Jesus was not G-d because G-d asks nothing of us but the possible.

Queen of Swords

The Genesis account of Adam and Eve's clothing doesn't mention blood, so once again, you're reading what you want into the bible. Moreover, how did god forgive the sins of the Israelites who died before he gave the laws about animal sacrifices? Did he kill animals for all of them himself?

Faith

Created in God's image: Gifted with the capacity to think, reason, use one's intellect and experience emotions. Endowed with the freedom to make choices. Blessed with the ability to create and to understand nature and the One who created us.

To my knowledge, the Bible doesn't speak of man being an exact replica of God. No mention of omnipotence, omniscience or omnipresence. Nothing about perfection. As humans, we are necessarily subject to human frailties. We are not God-like.


Why restrict God's abilities based on YOUR idea of what a perfect God would do or your belief of what constitutes perfection?

God lovingly created and interacted with His creation. He set forth guidelines and urged man to follow them, clearly outlining the consequences of not doing so.

Being sovereign, He certainly could have overlooked A&E's disobedience. Being morally perfect and unchanging, He instead held to His word. A&E were sent from Eden and they did "surely die".