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Jack the Bodiless · 03-01-2006, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BenefitOfTheDoubt

No--not having a board dedicated to bashing it like you do for the Bible. By not doing that, you prove that you know that God is the God of the Bible and that the Bible is the word of God and that the Koran is just a worthless role of toilet paper.

I can "bash" the Bible because I know that it contains falsehoods: ammunition that can be used to "bash" it with. There is comparatively little ammo to "bash" Islam with. Not that this is necessarily an indication that Islam is "more true": the Koran is a smaller book than the Bible, and written more recently and during a relatively brief span of time, hence fewer errors and contradictions.

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It's quite the opposite, and you know it. Your actions prove. You are an atheist, which means you hate God. So, as a hater of God you will attack what you perceive to represent Him, and you attack the Bible, not the Koran, thus showing that you believe the Bible and not the Koran to represent God.

Nope. You're spewing nonsense, and I know it (even if YOU don't).

You really need to control your temper. What are you doing here, what do you hope to achieve, and why do you imagine that hurling insults at us will help you achieve it?

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The Christian "Old Testament" contains "pure racist murderism".

Or does it contain punishment of child-molesting pagans who raped their children and then burned them alive? That's who Amalakites and all those tribes that God had Saul wipe out were. I think that was a better system than the voluntary "Please Mr. Sex Offender, let us know if you plan on moving without telling us" system we have here in America.

Where did you get the notion that those tribes "raped their children and then burned them alive"? (Some DID apparently have a ritual of sacrificing the firstborn child, but so did the Hebrews themselves). And you're saying that it's a "better system" to kill the perpetrators and the victims (except for the virgin girls to be saved for sexual purposes and human sacrifices: check your Bible). I disagree.

Also, the extent of the genocide to be inflicted on those tribes was determined by where they lived (i.e. whether or not they occupied lands that the Hebrews wanted to take from them).

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The Koran also has some pretty unpleasant stuff in it, but it generally urges Muslims to fight against non-Muslims in self-defense

So you say, but yet, they're running all over the globe killing each other and everyone else and the Jews aren't nor are Christians.

I am fairly sure that Christians have killed more Christians over the centuries (and even in the most recent century) than Muslims have killed Muslims. Though this doesn't excuse Islamic terrorists in any way.

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George Bush is a Muslim pretending to be something else, as the port deal proves. He started the "war on terror" to line the pockets of his Jihadist friends in Saudi Arabia and is just pretending to be fighting terror while he funds it.

:funny:
He's about as "Christian" as they come. I'm quite prepared to give him the "Benefit Of The Doubt".

jackrabbit · 03-01-2006, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by youngalexander

Perhaps the problem with Islam is that it consists of a 'book' cobbled together from a complete mishmash of unrelated texts, barely understood by their coagulators, over a period of several centuries and purported to having been written by a person whose only redeeming characteristic is the very high probability that he never existed.

Exactly like the bible then, except that bible is purported to having been written by more than one person.

jackrabbit · 03-01-2006, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BenefitOfTheDoubt

No--not having a board dedicated to bashing it like you do for the Bible. By not doing that, you prove that you know that God is the God of the Bible and that the Bible is the word of God and that the Koran is just a worthless role of toilet paper.

The koran and the bible are just worthless roles, er I mean rolls of toilet paper.

jackrabbit · 03-01-2006, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BenefitOfTheDoubt

George Bush is a Muslim pretending to be something else, as the port deal proves. He started the "war on terror" to line the pockets of his Jihadist friends in Saudi Arabia and is just pretending to be fighting terror while he funds it.

I totally agree with the highlighted parts. I agree about what he's doing, but disagree about who the beneficiaries are.

RUmike · 03-01-2006, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BenefitOfTheDoubt

George Bush is a Muslim pretending to be something else, as the port deal proves. He started the "war on terror" to line the pockets of his Jihadist friends in Saudi Arabia and is just pretending to be fighting terror while he funds it.

Is this guy for real?

jackrabbit · 03-01-2006, 08:42 AM

At least it's different. A fundamentalist who doesn't like bush. Fancy that.

lao tzu · 03-01-2006, 08:50 AM

Not that surprising, really. Christian fundamentalism and islamophobia are a pretty well matched set.

Jack the Bodiless · 03-01-2006, 08:51 AM

...Heh. I note that orangebaw's attempt to get a dicussion of Islam underway on this thread has been derailed by a certain poster named "BenefitOfTheDoubt" who then complains about why we don't discuss Islam much...

jackrabbit · 03-01-2006, 09:02 AM

Yeah, I thought about that too. Hilarious!

jackrabbit · 03-01-2006, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by taoist

Not that surprising, really. Christian fundamentalism and islamophobia are a pretty well matched set.

But the good news is that he will vote with us against bush.

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03-01-2006, 08:42 AM	#36
jackrabbit Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston Area Posts: 3,813	At least it's different. A fundamentalist who doesn't like bush. Fancy that.

03-01-2006, 08:50 AM	#37
lao tzu Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Everglades Posts: 1,121	Not that surprising, really. Christian fundamentalism and islamophobia are a pretty well matched set.

03-01-2006, 08:51 AM	#38
Jack the Bodiless Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: UK Posts: 5,815	...Heh. I note that orangebaw's attempt to get a dicussion of Islam underway on this thread has been derailed by a certain poster named "BenefitOfTheDoubt" who then complains about why we don't discuss Islam much...

03-01-2006, 09:02 AM	#39
jackrabbit Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston Area Posts: 3,813	Yeah, I thought about that too. Hilarious!

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