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If Christ returned to his disciples with bleeding wounds it would not say much concerning his claim to be Lord over death. What scripture reference did you have in mind exactly? |
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Of course, you are correct! What we have seen in this thread is a recapitulation of the problems besetting a doctrine of a physical resurrection. This is precisely the questions the Corinthians were asking. "How are the dead raised? And with what kind of body do they come?" Some of them had come to doubt the resurrection of the dead because a physical resurrection is plagued with difficulty, as we have seen in this thread. But the Pauline author didn't bother to defend a physical resurrection. He taught instead a spiritual resurrection. No flesh, no bone, but a body made out of star stuff, a heavenly body. But this doesn't help the late Gospel tales that purport to tell of a carnal resurrection with gaping wounds in the hands large enough to insert a finger, and a huge wound on the side large enough to insert the entire hand. (John 20:25) Tigers! take note. All the objections noted here still stand. Jake Jones IV |
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1. the biblical reference of John 20:25 only says "and put my hand into his side". This does not necessarily mean that Thomas was expecting a hole in Christ's side big enough to put in this hand. It could mean a) I want to feel the scar/wound of the spear or b) he was merely emphasising his belief that he would not believe unless he could touch Christ's living flesh. 2. I was actually after the reference to "1st fruits" |
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You are absolutely certain of that?
There have been a lot of things that men once believed and declared to be impossible, because of their lack of knowledge. Things which have been long decreed impossible, have since came to pass so many times, how surprising should it be, if yet one more icon of human ignorance should fall upon its face? With men faster than light travel is impossible, however with ' ' ' ' all things are possible, and nothing impossible. |
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Or, perhaps I should just point out that my post was (I thought obviously) not intended seriously, was not making any serious scientific or knowledge claims. Quote:
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