QuestionMark

Are the Laws written by "God Jesus" in the "Old Testament" currently valid?


Ten Commandments?

Not eating shrimp?

Homosexual acts?

QM?

Citsonga

Well, "God Jesus" didn't write any of it, so I guess that none of it is valid.

Toto

You have to clarify this if you want a discussion.

Are you asking Catholics? liberal Christians? Inerrantists? Jews? Jewish Reconstructionists? Humanists?

At least some Christians think that Jesus was present when the world was created, so he must bear some responsibility for construction defects.

There are some complicated justifications for treating different parts of the Hebrew Scriptures as still binding on Christians, but not all Christians agree. There are arguments from progressive revelation, or other made-up doctrines that allow believers to think for themselves at times. Only a minority of Jews still find all of the laws still in effect.

Take your pick.

mountainman

Dear QuestionMark,

QM? Quantum mechanics in the LXX?

Perhaps you are thinking about
the NT and Schrödinger's Tomb?

Best wishes,


Pete

Requia

"Schrödinger's Tomb"

I am so using this to poke the literalists with.

dog-on

Originally, the OT laws were written by Yahweh, who happened to be under the mistaken impression that he was the man, since it was his creation.

Christ, sent by the true father, paid the price and corrected Yahweh's misunderstanding.

That is why the OT laws were able to be consigned to the rubbish heap by Christianity.

Roger Pearse

Sorry to break the bad news, but adultery is still a sin.

dog-on

True, but now all you need to do is say, "I'm sorry Jesus! Please forgive me." and all is well.

To be honest, this is probably better than the old stoning mechanic.

Good thing that Yahweh updated to 2.0, I suppose.

IamJoseph

Actually, all the 613 laws of the Hebrew bible are active today, and appear to be the only laws the world follows. Not a single world accepted law, to my knowledge, comes from the NT or the Quran; all the laws supposedly made redundent by christianity ['fullfiled' away] is an abject failure - even within christian country's institutions. In fact, it appears christianity only negated those laws which appeared to contradict its NT scriptures - and this failed.

Of the 613 laws, the ritual laws were only directed to the Jews [prefixed 'unto you'] and are still active; all of the moral, ethical, judiciary, family and civic laws are active and worldly accepted, to the extent those countries which do not follow these laws are regarded outside the law. All Judiciary and animal rights laws come from the Hebrew bible; the first recording of women's rights laws are in the Hebrew bible; as well the first laws in science, herbology, astronomy, democrasy, evolution. The first separation of Medicine from occultism, and the first scientific cencus accounting of a graduation from a tribal community to a nation, is also recorded in the Hebrew bible.

This premise is based on what defines a command or advocation as a law, and that world accepted refers to acceptence outside of a single religion's realm, and enshrined in the judiciary institutions of outside nations than the one it emerged from. IOW, christians following a command in the NT or Muslims following one from the Quran, does not constitute a law or being world accepted.

There is a view that there is one single law which was originated by the Roman empire, namely the right to inter-marry, however this is highly disputable, notwithstanding that Rome's agenda was not a legal or moral pursuit but to accomodate its own citizens legally marrying inhabitants of its conquered nations. The calling of the Hebrew bible as THE BOOK OF LAWS, and Moses as THE LAW GIVER, is well vindicated.

IamJoseph

The stoning is replaced with other forms of punishment, but the law and its penalty remains active today.