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![]() I'm also a little puzzled by your loathing of Jesus...I too was under the impression that he had delivered the word of god, and that Muhammed came along to sort of reset thigns and get the word straight after it had been perverted for three hundred years or so? Not that there's much evidence for his existance or anything, but your apparent hatred for him is surprising to me :huh: Just out of curiosity, what do you mean by 'Samirah' in your profile? |
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It varies, but the 'huge family' stereotype with mormons is rapidly going the way of the same stereotype with catholics. ** disclaimer... I'm not LDS but I grew up in a mormon town so I know a fair number of them ** |
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Unfortunately, my calls for reason, respect, and, umm, education seems to have mostly fallen on deaf ears.
Absolutely nothing is to be gained by anyone, Christian, Moslem, or atheist, throwing accustations at the members of the religions, or harping on how the texts of either of the two religions "promote violence". All that accomplishes is stoking the flames of hatred and intolerance. We have Christians on this thread expounding on how their religion and texts promote peace and tolerance. Note that we also have Moslems doing the same for their religion and texts. Unfortunately, we have theists on both sides, and atheists, continually harping on how one, the other, or both religions and their texts "promote violence". Let's listen to those reasonable voices from the two religions (and I'm speaking to both theists and atheists here). We all hopefully can acknowledge that both religions have spawned intolerance, and violence, and fanatics, in the past and in the present, but that that is primarily the result of intolerant, violent and fanatical people, and not solely the result of the particular religion. If we want to do something about the future, we need to work to support those that are stressing the peaceful, tolerant aspects of their religion and texts. Christians need to acknowledge that there are many Moslems that are distressed by the militancy of the Islamic extremists, and vice versa. And we atheists need to listen to those moderate voices from the two religions that are seeking to point out that their religion and texts can be understood to support peace and tolerance. We, of course, don't believe either religion is "true", but we damn well will be better off if we can help get both religions to be more tolerant of each other (and us, and other religions) in this world. And continually stressing the intolerant extermists in the two religions without acknowledging that they are in the minority and that most in both religions prefer peace and tolerance is counter-productive to that goal. - Mageth, trying to serve as peacemaker (and recall that both religions stress that their members should do the same) P.S. - I'll again stress that anyone on this thread that is really interested in this subject should read Karen Armstrong's two books, A History of God and The Battle for God. A little education can go a long way towards eliminating the many misconceptions of both religions that have been thrown around like beads at the Mardi Gras on this thread. |
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My father was a Mormon...but he produced only my brother and I.
Just what that proves is anyone's guess... |
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Man, this thread is really not much different from the previous one.
So much for moderate muslims...........especially those who oppose secularism for the sake of a modern caliphate or Islamic state (remind me of a modern chinese confucian state). By the way, Muslim nations that are doing quite well are actually practising secularism, for example, Turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc. Get a life, stop dreaming of never-return past. |
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